On Tue, 2012-09-25 at 23:21 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > I still don't think you've actually demonstrated any causal linkage > > between these two things. Debugging instructions are debugging > > instructions. Bug reports are bug reports. They are separate things. I > > don't see how sourcing one of those things upstream inevitably means we > > should send the other one of them upstream. There is no obvious causal > > linkage there. > > If we send reporters upstream to read documents we can just as well send > them by the same method to upstream bugzilla's to file reports. I think we're hitting a point of diminishing returns, but I just don't agree. As another poster said, a list of debugging steps is essentially a static document. It really doesn't matter a whole deal where it lives. A bug report is not a static document at all. It's a single element in a complex process. A Fedora bug report is fundamentally a part of the Fedora development process. An upstream bug report is fundamentally a part of the upstream development process. Whether a bug should be filed up or downstream is an important question, and one to which different people have different answers, but it's fundamentally informed by the fact that a bug report is a single element of a much larger process. Anyone who wants to debug systemd can read the list of debugging instructions at fedoraproject.org or freedesktop.org with equal ease. It's just a basically-static page of text that tells them what to do. In a strict sense it is indeed just as 'easy' to tell them to report a bug in systemd at freedesktop.org as it is to tell them to file the bug at redhat.com, but doing so has far more consequences than telling them to read the debugging instructions at freedesktop.org. It makes their bug report a part of the upstream systemd development process, not the Fedora one. In some cases this may be appropriate. In others it may not. But the 'comparison' with the debugging instructions doesn't seem at all useful to me. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
