On Mon, 2012-09-24 at 20:31 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 09/24/2012 08:25 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 19:29:39 +0000 > > "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <johannbg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> A while back I started the initiative and writing how to debug pages > >> for QA Community to use and was about to write another when I noticed > >> when there has been put a big fat banner referring to upstream wiki > >> page on it. > >> > >> So my question here should we continue with this initiative which was > >> aimed at better documentation in the project and to improve general > >> reporting or should we simply drop the effort? > >> > >> JBG > >> > >> 1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Systemd_problems > > I think if upstream projects want to provide information on this, that > > should be preferred. In cases where they don't for whatever reason, I > > think a page on our wiki is fine. > > > > The problem will end up being knowing where to go... perhaps we could > > make a single page on the wiki about debugging and point to the various > > upstream or local debugging pages? > > > The general idea was to increase activity within the QA community and > improve reporting at the same time without having them running around > the whole internet while doings so. > > If the community prefers to run to various upstreams for this info we > can just as well stop reporting to Red Hat's bugzilla and report > directly upstream instead. ( something I have been very much against in > the past for the very same reasons ) I don't see that that follows logically at *all*. The two just seem like totally different things. Instructions for debugging a given component are going to be the same whether you're running Fedora, Ubuntu, SUSE or whatever: debugging systemd is debugging systemd. There may be cases where there are local variations, in which case it makes sense to have a local wiki page, but in cases where there aren't, it seems perfectly sensible if the instructions are provided upstream. I don't see any way in which that means bugs reports should always be upstream. I honestly don't see any problem with a Fedora 'how to debug' page simply referring to the upstream instructions if such instructions exist. It doesn't seem like it's actually a practical problem to have to load a page that is not hosted on a Fedora server. It's what hyperlinks were invented for. I'm really not seeing the problem here. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
