Re: Linking negative karma points to a reported bug

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On Fri, 2012-06-29 at 21:26 +0200, Till Maas wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 11:13:05PM +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> 
> > Yeah with regards to Bugzilla, our infrastructure team really ought
> > to be maintaining our own private instance of it. If it continues to
> > be run by RH engineering ops limiting us by some RHEL Customer rules
> > and policies and what not that we have no clues who are then I guess
> 
> Please provide a list of issues that hinder you / the QA community
> because Bugzilla is used / maintained by Red Hat. If you need certain
> features in Bugzilla, you can get them into upstream Bugzilla and they
> will land some day in Fedora's Bugzilla. And lot of stuff can probably
> be implemented by using Bugzilla's RPC interface.

Well, there's a lot of stuff to Bugzilla which is local site
configuration, and there _are_ cases where the configuration of RH
Bugzilla is compromised by having to work for both RHEL and Fedora.

To give an example I've been trying to sort out for _years_ - there is a
somewhat significant flaw in our blocker/NTH process. You nominate a bug
as blocker/NTH by setting it as blocking the tracker bug. But regular
users can't actually set bugs as blocking other bugs, in RH BZ. Only
people with editbugs privileges can. All packagers and Bugzappers have
editbugs privileges, but not all registered users do. So if you're just
a regular Fedora user and you file a bug that should be a blocker - you
can't actually nominate it yourself. You have to ask someone who has
privileges to do it for you. That kind of sucks, and I've had a ticket
with eng ops to get it changed for a long time now, but it hasn't
happened yet, and that's partly due to the fact that it wouldn't
necessarily be good for RHEL if any registered user could alter the
Blocks: field on a bug.

(For anyone interested in this issue, the current state in the art is
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707252 , where you can
marvel at the utter lack of activity. Sigh. I do suspect that if we had
a Fedora bugzilla, this would have been sorted out by now. Of course,
this one sole issue probably doesn't outweigh the duplication of effort
involved in running a separate Fedora bugzilla, but I'm sure there are
others).
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