On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Karel Volný <kvolny@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
No since the reporter should have already done all the steps involving the bug reporter which states either if this update introduced a regression or did not fix a bug that was claimed to be fixed in the update.
Right right could you point me to all the test cases for the packages you maintain that reporter should follow to properly test relevant's updated that is if they exist and if you happen to be one of the few that actually have some test cases for reporters to follow could you provide me to the link for the rest?
The case is we discussed this long time ago here in the QA community before you or Adamw or Tim joined and I can tell without a doubt there has been little to nothing changed since then in that regard.
Providing +1 karma in Bodhi today gives at best the meaning that an reporter updated and did not hit *notice* any regression, not that he conducted any extensive testing on the relevant component being updated.
There is nothing I'll founded in my claims against FESCO sticking their nose into our business they ( Atleast the people that where in it at that time ) in conjunction with FPC ( and again the people that where in it at that time ) have already contributed enough in preventing things being better than they could be with regards to QA .
It's us ( QA+Releng ) that have to implement maintain and oversee these processes to the best of our ability and a yay or nay at some meeting from people that aren't actively working on this stuff makes absolutely no sense
It's us QA Community in conjunction with Releng Community that ought to be making these decision period.
JBG
Dne Čt 28. června 2012 12:11:02, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson napsal(a):
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Karel Volný
<kvolny@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I simply don't like this idea, there is enough bugzilla noise
> > and enough bureaucracy (read: obstacles) for anyone wanting
> > to contribute (yes, even just clicking +1/-1 karma is a
> > valuable contribution ...)
>
> This is no additional bureocrasy thou you claim it to be
please elaborate on this
situation now:
step 1. follow a link to bodhi
step 2. click "Add a comment"
(optional) step 3. write a comment what doesn't work for you
step 4. click "does not work"
step 5. click "Add Comment"
your proposal:
step 1. follow a link to bodhi
step 2. click "Add a comment"
step 3. open Bugzilla in another window
step 4. click New
steps 5.-96. do all the things you have to do to properly file a
bug
step 97. return to bodhi
step 98. write a comment which includes the newly reported bug
number
step 99. "click does not work"
step 100. click "Add Comment"
you really don't see anything additional in the second case?
No since the reporter should have already done all the steps involving the bug reporter which states either if this update introduced a regression or did not fix a bug that was claimed to be fixed in the update.
> and please do sell/explain it further what value you see in
> having reporters to just click +1/-1
I see whether someone actually bothered to test the update, and
what is the result
Right right could you point me to all the test cases for the packages you maintain that reporter should follow to properly test relevant's updated that is if they exist and if you happen to be one of the few that actually have some test cases for reporters to follow could you provide me to the link for the rest?
The case is we discussed this long time ago here in the QA community before you or Adamw or Tim joined and I can tell without a doubt there has been little to nothing changed since then in that regard.
Providing +1 karma in Bodhi today gives at best the meaning that an reporter updated and did not hit *notice* any regression, not that he conducted any extensive testing on the relevant component being updated.
> Btw way please follow [1]
> 1.
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#Proper_po
> sting_style
it was directed to a topic as a whole, not to a specific
paragraph of your text ... sorry for not removing the original
message not to "increase the size of the daily digests" but I'd
find it more "highly confusing and incoherent" if I'd just
deleted it
btw, please follow
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#Be_Courteous
(or is it just me who finds it at least a bit strange to start
the thread by ill-founded, as Adam pointed out, attack on FESCO?)
There is nothing I'll founded in my claims against FESCO sticking their nose into our business they ( Atleast the people that where in it at that time ) in conjunction with FPC ( and again the people that where in it at that time ) have already contributed enough in preventing things being better than they could be with regards to QA .
It's us ( QA+Releng ) that have to implement maintain and oversee these processes to the best of our ability and a yay or nay at some meeting from people that aren't actively working on this stuff makes absolutely no sense
It's us QA Community in conjunction with Releng Community that ought to be making these decision period.
JBG
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