On 03/21/2012 05:10 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
The QA community discussed it at a meeting in 2011. Logs are here:On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 23:59 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:On 03/21/2012 04:56 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:Hey, folks. So here's some funny Fedora archaeology: QA is not actually officially a Fedora sub-project. I didn't know this (and didn't particularly care!), and neither did I know that, aeons ago (well, last year), jlaska kicked off an attempt to make us one. As sub-project requests are filed as Board trac tickets, I can't link to it because of the Board's silly policy of making trac tickets private, so only they and jlaska can see it. But I'm assured it exists. If anyone is super-interested in this exciting, nay thrilling process, it's documented at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DefiningProjects#Fedora_Projects . Anyway, Robyn tells me that with its customary, legendary efficiency and speed, the Board has come to a swift decision a mere eight months later that QA should be accepted as a sub-project.I'm a bit amazed that the board is going to approve some proposal that has not been presented to the QA community ( and I'm equally amazed that James did not present that to the QA community ) I for one would like to know exactly the details and the content of that ticket and an justification from the board on why it's approving an proposal that affects the whole QA community without the QA community actually knowing anything about it. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20110418 We're approving it, in my humble, speaking only for myself opinion, because Mr. Laska filed the request with what appears to be reasonable backup and consensus amongst the group. The details are copy-pasted here:As far as I understand it, it really doesn't have any particular material impact on us. It seems to have just been one of those things where someone looked at the list of projects - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Projects - and wondered why the heck QA wasn't on there. As far as I can figure out from the wiki, Official Project Status doesn't actually confer any particular responsibilities or rights or obligations or anything on us. I can't see where it's going to have any kind of concrete impact on what we do, at all. It really just seems to be a 'duh, of COURSE QA should be on that list' thing. At a recent QA team meeting, StylusEater? asked whether Fedora QA was a project or a SIG. I haven't paid much attention to this designation so far, since it didn't seem relevant or needed at the time. However, StylusEater? noted this came up while investigating adding "Quality Assurance" to the list of sub-projects on the wiki left navigation menu. It would be nice to include "Quality Assurance" on the wiki left side navigation menu to improve advertising for the team. However, to be added to that list, the websites team correctly noted that QA must first be blessed as a sub-project. According to DefiningProjects, the board is responsible for making this decision. So, the ultimate goal ... is to include 'quality assurance' under the list of sub-projects in the left-side navigation menu on the wiki. Is approval as a project required to achieve this? If so, I'd like to get the ball rolling to define QA as a sub-project. Aside: The current state of projects and SIGs is slightly confusing on the wiki. Fr example, BugZappers?, a QA sub-project, is listed as a SIG and listed as a project in the left nav-menu. Also, QA is listed as sub-project on the wiki start page, but not in the list of projects. |
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