On Friday, October 7, 2011, 4:05:11 PM, Stephen wrote: >On Oct 7, 2011 9:58 AM, "Al Dunsmuir" <al.dunsmuir@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Folks, >> >> I have a 32-bit test machine (Dell GX270, 1TB SATA, 2GB RAM) running XP >> (SP3) where I had successfully installed the Fedora 15 beta last release >> (500 MB boot, no LVM), and continued to use (in GNOME compatibility mode, >> the Radeon 7500 PCI video card not being rich enough for the full GNOME >> >> Surely my experience is not typical? Suggestions anyone? >> Al >Your experience is not typical because your use case is not typical. Trying >to install two linuxes on the same system with different boot loaders is not >standard and prone to break. > >My guess is that 16's grub2 and 15's grub1 are antagonistic Not everyone uses VMs, or dedicated hardware for testing. In all previous Fedora beta testing, it has been a well supported scenario. Install your beta on new partitions with a custom layout, and replace the existing grub with the new grub. Edit the grub configuration files, et viola! I could deal with setting up a separate grub to chain load the F15 boot. I could even deal with grub2 wiping out the F15 /boot setup, and requiring new table entries. What I can't deal with is the F16 install having NO IDEA how to handle the old F15 grub setup, and refusing to continue even when the resource it has asked for (but should not need) has been put in place. If the F16 install can not deal reasonably with an existing F15 grub we have a very bad situation. Remember, in the last iteration that F15 grub in the MBR is all that remains of the previous Fedora install. I would expect the F16 grub2 setup to offer to wipe out the existing grub1 in the MBR, and and as part of that grub2 find and hook in the boot for the XP partition. I see a few ways out: - Do a non-LVM install that takes all of the now free space, and then shrink that down with another partial iteration. - Install Ubuntu (which uses grub2 and had no issues with replacing grub1) with a custom layout, and then install the F16 beta over top of that. - Give up trying to beta test F16, wait for GA and hope for the best. Not too long ago, dual boot with Windows was a primary vector for introducing folks to Linux. Now that seems forgotten (or ignored). -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test