On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 23:52 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 14:42:07 -0700, AW (Adam) wrote: > > > > Ah, come on! That's close to blanket approval for such a high number of > > > packages, which require much more individual testing. To sign them off > > > all with a brief comment or a simple "works for me" isn't credible. > > > > On the contrary, I'd say it's exactly what we want. It doesn't benefit > > anyone to hold up the entire default desktop in updates-testing because > > Widget 234 in eog doesn't quite work right. I think it's right to allow > > an entire-GNOME update through as long as it more or less works. If we > > kept it in -testing until every niggling bug in every GNOME component > > was fixed...we probably wouldn't have GNOME 3.2 until 2014. =) F16 is > > still a *pre-release*, remember. We aren't expecting perfection at this > > point. > > Don't forget the subject of this thread and similar ones. ;) Some of us > are burnt with "Oh no!" crashes. Me even at gdm login time after applying > yesterday's updates. That's not just "Widget 234" but something nasty. > I could only log in after downgrading gnome-settings-daemon and found > several GConf2 crashes in abrt-gui: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/736268 This is probably due to later updates, not the giganto-update. The latest gobject-introspection seems to be causing Shell crashes in particular. That's not part of the 3.1.90 update, but a later update (IIRC - I can't check ATM as Bodhi appears to be down). > Meanwhile, more updates have arrived, but could only be installed > in two steps due to remaining broken deps: > > yum --disablerepo=updates-testing downgrade empathy > yum update > > [...] > Updated: > curl.x86_64 0:7.21.7-4.fc16 > dracut.noarch 0:013-8.fc16 > gdm.x86_64 1:3.1.90-1.fc16 > gdm-plugin-fingerprint.x86_64 1:3.1.90-1.fc16 > gnome-settings-daemon.x86_64 0:3.1.90-1.fc16 > grilo-plugins.x86_64 0:0.1.16-2.fc16 > grub2.x86_64 1:1.99-5.fc16 > libcurl.x86_64 0:7.21.7-4.fc16 > seahorse.x86_64 0:3.1.90-1.fc16 > tracker.x86_64 0:0.11.2-1.fc16 > verne-backgrounds-gnome.noarch 0:15.92.1-1.fc16 > verne-backgrounds-single.noarch 0:15.92.1-1.fc16 The error output from the failed run would be a lot more useful than the output post-workaround...=) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test