Re: Again: Oh no, something goes wrong

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On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 23:52 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 14:42:07 -0700, AW (Adam) wrote:
> 
> > > Ah, come on! That's close to blanket approval for such a high number of
> > > packages, which require much more individual testing. To sign them off
> > > all with a brief comment or a simple "works for me" isn't credible.
> > 
> > On the contrary, I'd say it's exactly what we want. It doesn't benefit
> > anyone to hold up the entire default desktop in updates-testing because
> > Widget 234 in eog doesn't quite work right. I think it's right to allow
> > an entire-GNOME update through as long as it more or less works. If we
> > kept it in -testing until every niggling bug in every GNOME component
> > was fixed...we probably wouldn't have GNOME 3.2 until 2014. =) F16 is
> > still a *pre-release*, remember. We aren't expecting perfection at this
> > point.
> 
> Don't forget the subject of this thread and similar ones. ;) Some of us
> are burnt with "Oh no!" crashes. Me even at gdm login time after applying
> yesterday's updates. That's not just "Widget 234" but something nasty.
> I could only log in after downgrading gnome-settings-daemon and found
> several GConf2 crashes in abrt-gui:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/736268

This is probably due to later updates, not the giganto-update. The
latest gobject-introspection seems to be causing Shell crashes in
particular. That's not part of the 3.1.90 update, but a later update
(IIRC - I can't check ATM as Bodhi appears to be down).

> Meanwhile, more updates have arrived, but could only be installed
> in two steps due to remaining broken deps:
> 
>   yum --disablerepo=updates-testing downgrade empathy
>   yum update
> 
> [...]
> Updated:
>   curl.x86_64 0:7.21.7-4.fc16                                                   
>   dracut.noarch 0:013-8.fc16                                                    
>   gdm.x86_64 1:3.1.90-1.fc16                                                    
>   gdm-plugin-fingerprint.x86_64 1:3.1.90-1.fc16                                 
>   gnome-settings-daemon.x86_64 0:3.1.90-1.fc16                                  
>   grilo-plugins.x86_64 0:0.1.16-2.fc16                                          
>   grub2.x86_64 1:1.99-5.fc16                                                    
>   libcurl.x86_64 0:7.21.7-4.fc16                                                
>   seahorse.x86_64 0:3.1.90-1.fc16                                               
>   tracker.x86_64 0:0.11.2-1.fc16                                                
>   verne-backgrounds-gnome.noarch 0:15.92.1-1.fc16                               
>   verne-backgrounds-single.noarch 0:15.92.1-1.fc16                  

The error output from the failed run would be a lot more useful than the
output post-workaround...=)
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