On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 23:33 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 13:49:47 -0700, AW (Adam) wrote: > > > On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 21:58 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:08:45 -0700, AW (Adam) wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 12:05 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > > > > > They weren't all on mirrors because there wasn't an updates-testing > > > > > compose for several days, which is beyond the control of the GNOME > > > > > maintainers. > > > > > > > > Specifically, between 31 August and 6 Sept, there was no updates-testing > > > > compose. Dennis, is there a reason for this? Thanks! > > > > > > Great to see that you understand the problem on your own. ;) > > > > > > All the added packages during that period have _not_ been pushed to any > > > repository at all, because the ticket was back to "pending" and waiting to > > > be pushed to "testing". Everyone trying to update only has had access > > > to the older packages with broken deps. > > > > I know, but it's still relatively easy to access the 'real' packages, > > and that's what all the people who tested the GNOME update did. > > Ah, come on! That's close to blanket approval for such a high number of > packages, which require much more individual testing. To sign them off > all with a brief comment or a simple "works for me" isn't credible. On the contrary, I'd say it's exactly what we want. It doesn't benefit anyone to hold up the entire default desktop in updates-testing because Widget 234 in eog doesn't quite work right. I think it's right to allow an entire-GNOME update through as long as it more or less works. If we kept it in -testing until every niggling bug in every GNOME component was fixed...we probably wouldn't have GNOME 3.2 until 2014. =) F16 is still a *pre-release*, remember. We aren't expecting perfection at this point. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test