Hey, folks. So, Athmane noticed that text mode firstboot doesn't really happen in Fedora 16, as it's 'expected' to in the new base test case: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_base_firstboot we did a bit of investigation and found that this is kinda normal. firstboot is in the base-x package group in comps. it doesn't get installed if you do a regular text mode installation. So if you're doing a minimal / text mode install, you don't get firstboot. I confirmed that this is also the case in F15, and I'm pretty sure it's the same in F14 and all the way back. This is clearly 'intentional' at some level, and I don't think anyone complained about it in f14 or f15. It doesn't seem like a major problem, because text mode firstboot is really pretty useless. It's nothing like graphical firstboot: what it actually does is call /usr/bin/setup, which is a simple wrapper around a couple of system-config tools. Notably, it's not a wizard, and AFAICT has no ability to create a regular user account, which is probably the most useful feature of graphical firstboot. I've mailed the firstboot maintainers to see if it's actually worth keeping text mode firstboot around at all, but whatever happens there, I'd like to propose revising the criteria and test case such that we don't really care about text mode firstboot any more. So: criterion "In most cases (see Blocker_Bug_FAQ), a system installed according to any of the above criteria (or the appropriate Beta or Final criteria, when applying this criterion to those releases) must boot to the 'firstboot' utility on the first boot after installation, without unintended user intervention. This includes correctly accessing any encrypted partitions when the correct passphrase is supplied. The firstboot utility must be able to create a working user account" would be modified to read: "In most cases (see Blocker_Bug_FAQ), a system installed according to any of the above criteria (or the appropriate Beta or Final criteria, when applying this criterion to those releases) must boot to the 'firstboot' utility on the first boot after installation, without unintended user intervention, unless the user explicitly chooses to boot in non-graphical mode. This includes correctly accessing any encrypted partitions when the correct passphrase is supplied. The firstboot utility must be able to create a working user account" Installing without X would be considered 'explicitly choosing to boot in non-graphical mode' for the purpose of the criterion. The test case would have the phrase "After performing the test, re-install in text mode, and repeat the test" removed. Sound good? Or can anyone think of a better way to re-phrase the criteria? Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test