On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 10:57 AM, cornel panceac <cpanceac@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > 2011/5/30 Pasha R <pashar.ml@xxxxxxxxx> >> >> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >> > On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 22:09 +0300, Pasha R wrote: >> >> On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> >> >> wrote: >> >> > On Sat, 2011-05-14 at 09:47 +0600, Angel wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> If you click the network icon of the panel then Network Settings, >> >> >> that >> >> >> ´s the different thing (dumbed down to absolute worthlessness). >> >> > >> >> > yeah - it's so worthless you can only connect to a typical wired or >> >> > wireless network configuration, y'know, like probably 80-90% of all >> >> > network connections ever. I do wish people would be less absurdly >> >> > extremist about everything. 'It doesn't yet cover my particular use >> >> > case' is not the same thing as 'worthless'. >> >> >> >> Well, unfortunately, my internet provider (and all other internet >> >> providers in my country) require me to use PPPoE to connect to >> >> internet. And, for some unknown reason (probably something like "I >> >> don't need it, so no one else does, too" logic) current "network >> >> setting" application does not allow me to configure such connection. >> >> So, yes, I can't configure my internet connection with it, which >> >> means, it is worthless. >> > >> > For your case, yes. 'Absolute worthlessness' implies it is of no use to >> > anyone, which is not the case. >> > >> > The reason some functions are not yet implemented in the GNOME 3 NM >> > interface is simply that the developers did not have time to finish them >> > off yet. No conspiracy theory needed. >> >> Yes, it is useless for anything beyond most basic configuration, which >> works without any configuration tools most of the time. And for some >> (many) users it is unable to setup internet connection at all. I don't >> remember posting any conspiracy theories here, but I don't understand >> why Fedora maintainers decide to replace functional software by >> software that lacks many essential features or even replace existing >> software by "yet to be written" (like gdmsetup, which remains to be >> written since F9). May be instead of rushing to release Gnome 3 before >> it can provide not only nice-looking, but also functional DE, they >> could stop, catch their breath and complete all these missing >> features. >> -- > > it's strange how, gnome 2 which was incomplete and buggy (we were unable to > stop a copy operation in nautilus, remember? ), suddenly appears great, by > comparison :) > Probably, inability to configure your screensaver is much more noticeable than inability to stop copy operation. :) -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
