>>>>> Mattia Verga <mattia.verga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > I think the process for becoming a packager is really rusty. We > currently require to submit a valid package review submission AND to > find a sponsor AND to prove them you're able "to convince an existing > sponsor-level member that you understand and follow the project's > guidelines and processes". Actually, since we decoupled the sponsorship process from the review process some years ago, it's simply submit a package, get it reviewed, file ticket asking for sponsor (https://pagure.io/packager-sponsors). There are currently no open tickets for people with reviewed packages who have not found a sponsor. So... I'm guessing the issue is one of the process being poorly documented, rather than some other issue with the difficulty of the sponsorship process. I know it's laid out in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_Review_Process (because I put it there ages ago) but I'm sure there are other places it needs to be. > The latest part seems quite subjective to me. It's not really subjective. The review itself is, of course, subjective, but sponsorship is more about having someone around who can help you get the package imported and built, answer questions about updates and such, and just keep an eye out just in case of any weirdness happening. So: reviewing: I'll help you get that package in shape. sponsorship: I'll help you get that quality package out there where everyone can use it. > Moreover, it's becoming harder and harder for the few sponsors to > follow all the requests: look at the approved package submissions list > [1] where a lot of those are stuck waiting for a sponsor. Because the sponsorship process is decoupled from reviewing, lack of sponsorship doesn't prevent reviews from moving forward, although of course there are surely other reasons that novice packagers might have a tougher time getting packages through the review process. > So, what about moving the sponsorship part to use an entry test? I think that would make it more difficult than it is now, not less. And wouldn't help with the things that a sponsor is actually expected to do. - J< _______________________________________________ packaging mailing list -- packaging@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to packaging-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/packaging@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
