On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Stanislav Ochotnicky <sochotnicky@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Quoting Michael Schwendt (2013-12-17 13:40:48) >> What about "-javadoc" packages? Generated HTML documentation in noarch >> packages that may be displayed with any HTML viewer. >> >> Here it seems packagers add a dependency on "jpackage-utils" only to >> pull in dependencies that own the /usr/share/javadoc directory. It's >> not jpackage-utils but javapackages-tools that owns it. >> >> # repoquery --whatprovides /usr/share/javadoc >> javapackages-tools-0:3.4.1-1.fc20.noarch >> javapackages-tools-0:3.4.1-1.fc20.noarch > > So now you know why they require javapackages-tools (jpackage-utils). They > mostly need if for directory ownership Maybe they could co-own the directory instead of requiring javapackages-tools. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#The_directory_is_owned_by_a_package_which_is_not_required_for_your_package_to_function > >> # repoquery --whatrequires javapackages-tools|wc -l >> 2559 >> # repoquery --whatrequires jpackage-utils|wc -l >> 2557 >> >> As a result, one cannot install -javadoc packages without having to >> install dependencies. >> >> Why is it like that? Just to apply the "BuildRequires and Requires" >> guidelines for Java packages also to -javadoc packages? > > It's like that because directories have to be owned by some RPM. In this case > that's javapackages-tools > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Java#Javadoc_installation >> >> Could we relax the Java packaging guidelines for -javadoc packages, please? > > Not unless packaging of javapackages-tools is changed so that directories are > owned by some "java-filesystem" package. We've always had bigger fish to fry > though so nobody bothers with this. javapackages-tools have negligent dep chain > anyway (python, python-lxml). It's not a simple guideline change, but rather > change of autorequires generator, packaging guideline, rebuild and manual fix of > older packages that do not use autorequires generator. It's doable though, but > very low priority (for me at least) > > Besides there are probably still a lot of javadoc packages that pull in main package. > > -- > Stanislav Ochotnicky <sochotnicky@xxxxxxxxxx> > Software Engineer - Developer Experience > > PGP: 7B087241 > Red Hat Inc. http://cz.redhat.com > -- > packaging mailing list > packaging@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/packaging -- packaging mailing list packaging@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/packaging
