Quoting Michael Schwendt (2013-12-17 13:40:48) > What about "-javadoc" packages? Generated HTML documentation in noarch > packages that may be displayed with any HTML viewer. > > Here it seems packagers add a dependency on "jpackage-utils" only to > pull in dependencies that own the /usr/share/javadoc directory. It's > not jpackage-utils but javapackages-tools that owns it. > > # repoquery --whatprovides /usr/share/javadoc > javapackages-tools-0:3.4.1-1.fc20.noarch > javapackages-tools-0:3.4.1-1.fc20.noarch So now you know why they require javapackages-tools (jpackage-utils). They mostly need if for directory ownership > # repoquery --whatrequires javapackages-tools|wc -l > 2559 > # repoquery --whatrequires jpackage-utils|wc -l > 2557 > > As a result, one cannot install -javadoc packages without having to > install dependencies. > > Why is it like that? Just to apply the "BuildRequires and Requires" > guidelines for Java packages also to -javadoc packages? It's like that because directories have to be owned by some RPM. In this case that's javapackages-tools > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Java#Javadoc_installation > > Could we relax the Java packaging guidelines for -javadoc packages, please? Not unless packaging of javapackages-tools is changed so that directories are owned by some "java-filesystem" package. We've always had bigger fish to fry though so nobody bothers with this. javapackages-tools have negligent dep chain anyway (python, python-lxml). It's not a simple guideline change, but rather change of autorequires generator, packaging guideline, rebuild and manual fix of older packages that do not use autorequires generator. It's doable though, but very low priority (for me at least) Besides there are probably still a lot of javadoc packages that pull in main package. -- Stanislav Ochotnicky <sochotnicky@xxxxxxxxxx> Software Engineer - Developer Experience PGP: 7B087241 Red Hat Inc. http://cz.redhat.com -- packaging mailing list packaging@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/packaging