Matthias Saou wrote: > Nope. The current guidelines don't mention anything about this AFAICT. > It's the reviewer of my package who thinks it should be added, and had > it confirmed by someone on IRC (which isn't something I'd consider > trustworthy!). Really, how can you say that. You don't even know who weighed in on the discussion. Surely you realize that a lot of people that are on this list are on #fedora-devel as well. But let me be clear with my position (I am the reviewer for anyone who hasn't bothered to pull up the bug yet). It is unclear for me whether you think your program /doesn't need/ initscripts or /shouldn't require initscripts/. These are two totally different things, so I'll cover them both. Let's overlook the guideline for requiring the initscripts based on the fact that you put files in it's directories - this will simplify things for the moment. You must ask yourself, "is my package fully functional if initscripts is not installed". The answer is no. And not only no, but generates errors. Here's why: 1) . /etc/init.d/functions This will fail with an error message. 2) daemon /usr/sbin/autodir ... cmdline opts This will fail with an error message and fail to start the program. 3) pid=`pidfileofproc $prog` This will fail with an error message and cause the initfile to give incorrect status information. 4) killproc $prog This will fail with an error message and also fail to shutdown the program properly. Now, given the above, I think we can agree that your program "needs" initscripts (let's not say requires just yet). You might now argue that initscript will always be installed so that this is a non-issue. With that argument you are probably assuming that it will be required by the /installed/ kernel (this was my argument on #fedora-devel, because I was arguing your side of the discussion). So consider the case that someone compiles and runs their own kernel and removes the fedora kernel from the system. Until this was pointed out to me, I did not know how few dependencies there were (at least in newer fedora releases). This is totally plausible. And then if they remove initscripts (because nothing else depends on it), your package is broken. This is why it should require initscripts. -- Fedora-packaging mailing list Fedora-packaging@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-packaging
