On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 02:48:47 +0100, Axel Thimm wrote: > > As much as I support upstream changes, it is beyond my motivation to > > be the one to take the lead here. > > But it is your motivation obviously to head towards the opposite > direction. You often seem to assume strange things about people you communicate with. Oh, wait, that was a quote from your previous mail! Actually, the "opposite direction" is what you propose, i.e. to bring back the .la problems before an alternative solution is implemented. > > I have not even seen any solutions other than killing .la files > > except where the used ltdl doesn't understand .so files. > > Maybe because your toolbox at home only has a hammer? Lame metaphors are an effective way to kill communication. > How many times did I mention in this thread that there are working > patches even used for quite some time in other distros? Why don't you collect them and present them for review? But to do you a favour, let's return to a previous message. Quoting Axel: My proposal is to allow *.la files to live and kindly divert people crying too loud about it to assist upstream in fixing the issues. Don't forget that there are already patches for dealing with 95% of our issues available. Clever! First you prepare the road with phrases like "people crying too loud" before you try to subvert established packaging techniques: So let me ask again: What's really that bad about including the current *.la files into devel by default (unless really needed in main packages) other than a couple more dependencies between *-devel packages and how bad are these "bloated" devel interdependencies? I wish you would have the courage to explain what the benefits of bringing back .la files would be before a solution is supported upstream. What are the "95% of our issues" and how do the patches avoid them? -- Fedora-packaging mailing list Fedora-packaging@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-packaging