So, is there still any interest in PHP guidelines at all? I worked up http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/PHP but then Ville had an idea for a template that doesn't need any special macro definitions to be provided by the php-pear package. I don't know what the current state of things is. Is there any chance of making any forward movement soon? We're going to start losing packagers if we can't get some reviews done soon. Regarding PECL modules, I looked over the php-pecl-xdebug package which is the only PECL module under review currently. The spec is clean and requires two macros which I have in the above draft, although the means for determining the API version is completely different. Could someone comment on the differences and relative strengths of: %define php_apiver %((phpize --version 2>/dev/null || echo 'PHP Api Version: 20041225' ) | sed -n '/PHP Api Version/ s/.*: *//p') and %define php_apiver %((echo 0; php -i 2>/dev/null | sed -n 's/^PHP API => //p') | tail -1) besides the obvious additional complexity of the former (and the hilarity of having to do such gymnastics in the first place)? - J< -- Fedora-packaging mailing list Fedora-packaging@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-packaging