-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 02/21/2012 03:51 PM, Brendan Jones wrote: > On 02/21/2012 09:07 PM, Kyrian wrote: >> ... >> >> - Then I think, ah, wrong kernel, and pulseaudio? But that could >> be grouped too, no? Have, say, Jack and have it conflict with >> pulseaudio somehow? > > Pulseaudio is proving to be a pain. Its now an implicit dependency > of the default desktop (GNOME) which is unfortunate. Having said > all that, I think its a great piece of software, but creates > unnecessary complications when all you want to do is > create/produce and edit music. There are some applications which > refuse to play with anything else now (skype anyone?) that mean > people like me have no choice but to coexist with it. I'm still not > happy with my setup - other users on this list have also posted > their solutions [2]. I think we should aim to ship a > pulseaudio-less solution. This means we need to decide on a desktop > that's not Gnome - of course that won't make everyone happy, but if > we have the comps group like you suggest, those gnome users can > still pull in the audio packages with ease. Something about this seems off. I remember when it used to be the case that audio cards generally wouldn't work by default in Linux. Slowly, eventually, PulseAudio solved that. If we remove PulseAudio, we're forcing our users to "go it alone." Now, I understand that PulseAudio isn't ideal for audio creation software--that's why it uses JACK--but we don't want to throw away everything that PulseAudio gained. And surely we want to allow people to use GNOME if they want. And Skype. Otherwise we risk running into a situation where people enjoy using the Fedora Audio Spin for audio-creation tasks, but can't stand it for anything else. Recent versions of JACK cooperate better with PulseAudio. Maybe what we need is the PulseAudio-->JACK output sink enabled by default. As you noted, Simon Lewis recently posted a possible procedure to this list. Christopher. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPRISbAAoJEInCktGVqZ8VC44H/00IDWBJ80G9NHz/s2Kw1cn8 3dJYdVPKPCwCdGz4J2c69hUgsMqRXhs1dNuNss+s18dYer4MNMoGWAwP/pp7p4Tb rP9rOSdVukiQDuONt7E8ljCitRZMIsidg8qkZU7ffTUFQgqlIqX21Ha+K2XNjhu4 5nyHlAaRjFosCBLXL6KGsauK3ojpBM73y7HL7NevjQ+MGaRy4j2mU6UURd0UmRW+ a+lN6ZHQO3/DhNMp+WPG+JL2ysqNoNbXXrGVWVxURro1YQtJvEfP9i8jwgF9rwOW JyV5mo11r1JARED1f0nAQ9yMbljmLYIgiAMZgLKt6hNLF0R7UhhY8KJV9pIN5NU= =Th7r -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ music mailing list music@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/music
