Re: Looking to get involved

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On 04/27/2011 03:29 PM, adam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> The single biggest thing that Fedora needs is a realtime kernel in the base repo.

Oh yeah.... I would love that!

>  All the music packages in the world wont matter if running JACK at 
lowest latency requires building your own kernel. When I use Fedora for 
audio that's what I have to do - build my own kernel from upstream source.

Any particular reason you don't use the rt patched kernels I build for 
Planet CCRMA? (apart from not wanting to use a non-Fedora repository, of 
course). Just curious...

> Building the real time kernel is the easy part. Navigating the Fedora project's labyrinthine structure and packaging requirements are the hard part.

Yes, packaging an rt kernel is not easy, at least when you start... I've 
been doing that since 2001 (sigh!).

Last time the subject of "rt kernels into Fedora" came up (2008 I 
believe), there was no interest from Fedora or RedHat into getting a 
second kernel into their repositories - and the question had already 
been asked two years or so before _that_. I could try to dig up the 
thread. Maybe things have changed, but I don't hold much hope till the 
issue is forced by rt getting into upstream (real soon now? :-). And 
then the big discussion will be "should we enable this in the build - it 
will break things!"?

I don't see how Fedora would manage two kernels with the support issues 
that would surface specially since today the latest "official" rt 
patches are for 2.6.33 (I'm testing a forward port to 2.6.34 that 
appeared in the rt mailing list, but that is still old).

-- Fernando


> If you know anything about RPM packaging and/or getting packages into Fedora I would highly encourage you to look into this. Fedora has plenty of nice packages, but it has no kernel capable of running them at ultra low latency. I will do anything I can to help you. Without an easy to install realtime kernel built from upstream (not a patched version of the Fedora kernel) I can't recommend Fedora to people for audio work. If Fedora did have a realtime kernel in the base repos it would make it one of the most attractive distros for audio work.
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> A
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: "David Timms"<dtimms@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 5:54pm
> To: music@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re:  Looking to get involved
>
> On 28/04/11 00:08, William Blackburn wrote:
>> What could I do to help out?
> 1. Testing of new or updated packages:
> eg: audacity - building at the moment for f14,15, available for rawhide:
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=1352
>
> Specifically, note which functions of the app you have taken for a spin,
> and had success with. This makes it easier for others to try something
> that you haven't.
>
> 2. take a CCRMA (or other upstream application) package, update to
> fedora guidelines and current version, and submit for fedora review:
> http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetccrma/14/SRPMS/
>
> Choose especially apps that you might actually use, since you will be
> long term primary maintainer.
>
> 3. work on Music Spin
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Music_Creation_Lite_Spin
> see the discussion section for an initial review, and hence work to be done.
>
> 4. As a group, we probably also need a goals list. The wiki is a good
> place to put ideas, and a bit of mail list or IRC discussion could help
> to determine priorities, and be able to indicate that you would like to
> work on a specific item.
>
> David.
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