Justin W. Flory píše v Út 28. 03. 2017 v 13:37 +0000: > On 03/20/2017 04:20 PM, Eduard Lucena wrote: > > Hi Jiri, > > > > I love the idea, and when English version is complete, I will love > > to > > help with the Spanish version. I comment, in the readme you should > > include some instructions to download and compile the book, for > > possible > > contributors to help. > > > > Br, > > > > 2017-03-20 12:00 GMT-03:00 Benson Muite <benson_muite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > <mailto:benson_muite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>: > > > > Hi, > > > > This seems very useful. > > > > It might be possible to adapt the translation wiki tool below > > to use > > on Pagure. > > > > http://translate.keeleleek.ee/wiki/Esileht > > <http://translate.keeleleek.ee/wiki/Esileht> > > https://bitbucket.org/andrjus/minoritytranslate/ > > <https://bitbucket.org/andrjus/minoritytranslate/> > > > > > > > > Regards, > > Benson > > > > > > On 03/20/2017 01:19 PM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: > > > Hi, > > > I've finally found time to push forward the "Getting Started > > > with > > > Fedora" handbook. > > > > > > Just an introduction for those who don't know what it is: > > > Almost two years ago, we created a Czech handbook for > > > beginners to > > > start with Fedora. It has ~30 pages and we give it away at > > > conferences, > > > presentations etc. It's been pretty successful and we decided > > > to > > > translate it to English, but the project stalled because it > > > didn't have > > > anyone who'd push it forward. > > > > > > The handbook was rewritten to Asciidoc and moved to Pagure: > > > https://pagure.io/ambassadors/fedora-handbook > > > <https://pagure.io/ambassadors/fedora-handbook> > > > > > > The current status: it's fully translated to English and the > > > content is > > > synced (we originally started translating the first version > > > and the > > > Czech origin got updated meanwhile, now the content is the > > > same again) > > > and the English version should be the origin from now on. > > > Translations > > > of the chapters 1, 2, 3, 5, 6 have been proofread and should > > > be fine > > > language-wise (kudos to Brian Excelbierd?). > > > > > > What needs to be done: > > > 1. The chapter 4 still needs proofreading by a native > > > speaker. > > > > > > 2. English screenshots need to be taken and added. > > > > > > 3. We should go through the content and see if there is > > > anything > > > missing within the intended scope*. I hope it's where > > > marketing people > > > can help. You can read the source files, but if you'd like to > > > read the > > > handbook in a formatted form, you can download: > > > https://pagure.io/ambassadors/fedora-handbook/blob/master/f/e > > > n-US/handb > > > <https://pagure.io/ambassadors/fedora-handbook/blob/master/f/ > > > en-US/handb> > > > ook.html > > > > > > 4. We need to refresh the cover and make it easily > > > translatable. I've > > > already filed a ticket about it in the design team track: > > > https://pagure.io/design/issue/508 > > > <https://pagure.io/design/issue/508> > > > > > > 5. Generate a final print PDF. There is no direct converter > > > from > > > asciidoc to LaTex we've used for typesetting, but you can > > > convert it to > > > Docbook and Docbook to LaTex. The same guy who prepared the > > > print PDF > > > for the first Czech release is willing to prepare the English > > > version > > > as well. > > > > > > 6. Printing - I can handle this for EMEA. The printing-works > > > gave us a > > > really good price for good quality - ~$.50 for one print. > > > > > > I'd like to get the English version out before Flock. Once > > > it's ready, > > > we'll make a release branch. Another release will be worked > > > on in > > > master and the release branch will accept fixes and > > > translations. > > > > > > I hope to see translations to other languages, especially the > > > widely > > > used ones - Spanish, German, French, Portuguese, Chinese, > > > Hindi,... > > > Translations will simply get another subdirectories and > > > translators > > > will translate whole files. We decided not go with gettext > > > and > > > translations systems such as Zanata because first we have no > > > experience > > > with them and second translating whole documents per strings > > > or > > > paragraphs produces suboptimal results. Moreover the content > > > of the > > > handbook should not change so much. > > > Every translation will have to find someone who will prepare > > > the final > > > print PDF because that's something you can't really automate > > > and the > > > volunteer we have now is willing to do only the Czech and > > > English > > > versions because he doesn't know typesetting rules for other > > > languages. > > > > > > The handbook doesn't require frequent updates because the > > > content is > > > pretty general and doesn't refer to particular releases. The > > > first > > > version was released two years ago and the content is still > > > pretty much > > > OK. We'd like to make one release a year, but if some > > > translations are > > > a bit behind or decide to skip one year it should not be a > > > major > > > problem. > > > > > > Anyone willing to help with any of the todos? ;) > > > > > > Jiri > > > > > > *I'd like to keep the scope the same: the handbook should get > > > the user > > > from visiting our booth or presentation at an event through > > > downloading > > > Fedora, installing it to getting familiar with the system. It > > > should > > > explain them what makes Fedora interesting and why it's worth > > > a try. It > > > should not be a comprehensive guide to Fedora, it should > > > rather link to > > > other sources in the end. > > > > > Thanks for sharing this out on the list, Jiri. I will try to find > time > to contribute to this, but I'm not sure when I'll have a chance to > sit > down and go through it all. > > Have you considered putting together a Community Blog post to make a > call for editors? This might help bring some more heat and light over > to > the English review team. :) > > https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/writing-community-blog-ar > ticle/ I can surely put something together for the blog. Jiri
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