On Thu, May 07, 2015 at 09:25:01AM +1000, Ryan Lerch wrote: > On 05/07/2015 09:12 AM, Pete Travis wrote: > > > > > >On May 6, 2015 4:07 PM, "Paul W. Frields" <stickster@xxxxxxxxx > ><mailto:stickster@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, May 06, 2015 at 04:45:43PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > >> > On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 01:25:53PM -0400, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > >> > > On 05/05/2015 12:12 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > >> > > > I'm still unsure about "news", because I'm afraid that people will > >> > > > think that it's just another announce-list (or devel-announce). A > >lot > >> > > > of the things I anticipate posting would be kind of "pre-news" — > >this > >> > > > is being worked on (and maybe needs input), rather than this was > >> > > > _done_. Plus, I want somewhere to post articles along the lines of > >> > > > > ><http://fedoramagazine.org/lets-talk-about-fedora-project-objectives/>, > >> > > > which isn't news at all. > >> > > > > >> > > > I'm happy to drop "insight", though, if people aren't fond of it, > >or > >> > > > worse, have a negative association — I don't really have any > >> > > > association with it _at all_, other than I know many of you were > >> > > > working on it and then it morphed into the Magazine instead. > >> > > > >> > > I guess I'm unfamiliar w/the Insight history. News seems fine, and > >"what > >> > > we're doing / working on that will soon affect you" does fit under > >the > >> > > "news" category. > >> > > >> > I don't think it's as much a negative association per se as a name > >> > with history attached that would confuse people. It was a project > >> > that fizzled, so to reuse the name would be confusing about how this > >> > new site came about. -1 Insight for me too. > >> > >> And... just so I can contribute something useful and constructive, :-) > >> I think what would make great sense is calling this site "Fedora > >> News." > >> > >> Lest anyone think this is too generic, the madness hath method! The > >> kind of information we are proposing go into the site is *precisely* > >> that which used to be covered by Fedora Weekly News. We're basically > >> removing the "Weekly" in name as well as concept. And perhaps you > >> could visit it at news.fp.o -- which makes sense not only for naming > >> but because it is the news of the project itself. > >> > >> If you think of these companion sites in terms of movies -- which > >> everyone should know by now I love -- Fedora Magazine is a lot like > >> Empire, and Fedora News is a lot like Variety. You read the first > >> because you love going to movies and dipping into more about them. > >> You read the second because you're in the business of making movies, > >> and you need to know things like what studio exec just hopped jobs, or > >> that the Writers Guild is bucking for more benefits. > >> > >> -- > >> Paul W. Frields > > > >I recall that Fedora Magazine once had sections. A section for users and > >a section for contributors makes more sense to me than spinning up a whole > >new site. Users might be interested in content in either scope, and we > >want them to *become* contributors. It strikes me as more inclusive to > >make all the content available in one place, anyway, but not necessarily > >on the same pages. > > > > yeah, we had a discussion about this a while back, and this is where the > idea of a seperate site propagated from. The idea here is that different > sites will allow us to focus content on our two prime audiences. Even with > categories, people that really only care about user-facing content have a > larger signal-to-noise ratio with posts about elections, community stats > etc. > > That is not to say that *some* of the communtity related content doesn't > belong on the magazine, it's just that not all of it should be there, > firehose style. We also get the added benefit of when we do put > community-releated content on the magazine, we can tailor it in an > outreach-style to a more focused audience -- for example a flock post would > go into more detail of flock and it's aims while a majority of people that > are already contributors already know this. Agreed on all points. I think everyone else agreed thus far the separate sites are a good idea so we can target the right audiences with different sets of material. It's also a good idea in that we target the right audiences with different sets of authors, too. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- marketing mailing list marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
