Arnav Kalra píše v Út 21. 08. 2012 v 00:11 +0530: > I have a netbook which i can use for this purpose. How can i help? When there is a test day just join us and participate. You can also test Fedora any time during the test cycle and report problems to bugzilla. Jiri > On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Jiri Eischmann > <eischmann@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Arnav Kalra píše v Po 20. 08. 2012 v 22:28 +0530: > > Maybe we should release virtualbox/vmware images so that > people can > > easily test fedora. Is fedora on Google plus? If yes then we > can > > schedule events on Google plus and send invites. > > > The problem is that many test days require testing on bare > metal, > they're usually the most important ones (power management, > graphics > drivers,...). But it might be useful for others. > Fedora is on G+, but I have no idea who is in charge of the > account. > > Jiri > > > On Aug 20, 2012 8:21 PM, "Jiri Eischmann" > <eischmann@xxxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > > Robyn Bergeron píše v Pá 17. 08. 2012 v 12:13 -0700: > > > Hey, > > > > > > So, I was just hanging out in the weekly kernel > meeting on > > IRC, and > > > asked how their virtual fad for kernel regression > testing > > went, and > > > heard that they had incredibly low turnout, and it > was also > > noted that > > > test days in general kind of have low or less than > we'd like > > to have > > > turnout. Which seems like something we can help > with, in a > > few ways: > > > > > > #1: Work with the QA team to help them figure out > how to get > > information > > > to us so that we can get it out to various > channels - > > twitter, facebook, > > > etc. - and what information we'd need and when. > > > > > > A lot of times, it seems like testing might sound > > daunting/"not for me" > > > when in reality, it might be easy or take 5 > minutes or etc. > > So maybe > > > things we could ask for would be... > > > > > > * How long does this take? > > > * Is this "easy", "hard," ... what skills do you > need? > > > * Is this a "you just need a USB key and a way to > download" > > or is this > > > potentially going to destroy your system? > > > > > > For the kernel regression virtual fad - which > wasn't really > > a test day - > > > as an example, it's (a) got the word "kernel" in > it, which I > > think > > > automatically makes a lot of people say "uhoh, not > for me," > > even though > > > there may have been ways for them to participate. > > > > > > Anyway: it seems like something we could add value > to - just > > with > > > something like, "Send us your info a week in > advance, we'll > > work up some > > > tweets or content and help drive folks back to > you." > > > > > > #2: See if there are additional things we could > produce that > > can help > > > people get acquainted with the idea or process of > testing. > > > > > > Maybe a video how-to? Not really sure here what > would be > > valuable - > > > would be something to reach out to the QA folks > about. > > > > > > #3: Josh Boyer added in the kernel meeting that it > would be > > cool to just > > > have a "Boot the rawhide kernel today. Does it > work? Tell us > > why or why > > > not" type of thing - I don' tknow if that would be > targeted > > as a once a > > > week type thing, or what. Maybe this would be an > interesting > > thing to > > > tackle - how can we help them make this sound less > > daunting/more > > > friendly, get the word out, and have fun with it? > Maybe a > > quick > > > screencast of how to walk through this type of > thing from > > start to finish? > > > > > > Thoughts, comments? Anyone willing to reach out to > either QA > > or the > > > kernel folks to pick their brains on this one? > > > > I've been thinking about how to improve test days > promotion > > for some > > time. A few thoughts: > > > > If we want to have more people testing Fedora we > need to have > > appropriate infrastructure first. Frankly, wiki is > not > > scalable for > > receiving test results. It's OK if you have 10-15 > participants > > throughout the day, but it's PIA if you have more. > There were > > about 40 > > people participating in the power management test > day and they > > had > > serious problems to submit results (conflicts all > the time). > > Not > > mentioned that for some people, editing wiki is not > very > > friendly. I > > spoke about this with the QA guys so much that they > started > > working on > > some submitting system, but it's just at the > beginning and > > doesn't have > > a high priority for them. > > > > Real (not online) events might be worth exploring. > We did it > > for the F17 > > power management test day during our office's open > house. It > > was by far > > the most attended test day and people were enjoying > testing > > Fedora > > together and with people that have the best insight > in to the > > area (our > > power management engineers in this case). > > > > We have to talk about them more. People that > represent Fedora > > should > > blog about it, talk about it at conferences, post > > announcements at > > national community sites etc. If I and Jaroslav > Reznik attend > > a general > > Linux conference in our region we propose a talk > "How To > > Contribute to > > Fedora Project" and it's mostly about test days > because > > testing is an > > entry level contribution everyone can do. We go > through test > > cases with > > people and show them it's actually quite easy to > take part in > > test days. > > And we tell them that testing prior to the final > release is > > very > > important. > > > > Red Hat opened an intern position in Brno office for > someone > > who would > > coordinate test days promotion. Unfortunately, they > haven't > > yet found a > > good fit, a student who is a Fedora enthusiast and > interested > > in > > testing. > > > > Jiri > > > > > > -- > > marketing mailing list > > marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing > > > -- > marketing mailing list > marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing > -- marketing mailing list marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing