Am Donnerstag, 15. April 2010 11:41:39 schrieb Jan Wildeboer: > I am more fearful of an opposite possibility. That companies can "buy" > themselves in to Fedora marketing. Noboidy brought this up *yet* but > soonish someone will propose that companies could "sponsor" this. It is > a natural thing to think about but it would be so wrong to do. We promote Fedora and EPEL to companies "as the possibility to have "their" Software packaged/maintained along our guidelines on a stable enviroment with a broad userbase - and that it is good to become a community member by maintaining it together" - with all the benefits that are related - we get more features, users and contributors and they get a out of the box working product in Fedora and EPEL to have a better market penetration. This sounds like a good symbiosis. > And with complete I mean that any fedora user must be able to use all > the features of a project in the repos. If whatever part of the expected > featureset needs external and possibly non-opne components, we cannot > promote it. "any fedora user" is able to use all the features that zarafa provides to all fedora-users! We do not care for proprietary windows-connectors that are out there to connect to databases, frameworks, application ... in fedora! > Zarafa is not positioning itself on its own website as "All advantages > of Micrososft Exchange at 50% of the costs" [1]. The version we have in > the repos also seems to have a limit of 3 outlook users according to > [2]. > So in this specific case I do have some pain in promoting it. I > would even go as far as saying that if the version of Zarafa in Fedora > really has this 3 user limit it is against the philosophy and spirit of > Fedora. Jan, Zarafa in the Open Source version does not support outlook! And it is not about Outlook or Zarafa marketing! > But that is not my call. As Zarafa is in the repos, I am sure this > aspect has been throughly checked. why mention it then ;) > But as outlook integreation is a strong selling point for Zarafa, our > users will expect this functionality to work. If it doesn't do that, we > have a problem. It is about Fedora Users! The Users expect the Zarafa Open Source Framework and this is what they get. With all features! > And that is why I am not supportive of promoting it > beyond the fact that Zarafa is in the repo. We should not discourage the idea to have a good symbioses with other vendors. The Framework is working and can be used with all Features that a Fedora User is able to use. We should be proud that we are the "first" and only who have zarafa build by ourself in our own infrastructure and not from zarafa itself. It was the community who felt the need to have it in fedora and they made all the work together with Zarafa - and Zarafa even changed licences. Zarafa is in Fedora and it is a success-story and we should be proud, it reflects perfectly freedom: freedom to use a Enterprise Groupware without the need to use probrietary connectors or clients features: the only real working FOSS Groupware with a perfect full featured FOSS Webinterface first: we are first and only who ship zarafa inside the distribution friends: it is done by a close symbiosis between Ambassadors (it was me who made started the effort two years ago) Packagers (it was Robert and Jeroen who stand up and made the all the work) Vendor (it was Zarafa who helped and showed will to learn and even changed licences for us!) cu Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688
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