On 04/15/2010 11:28 AM, Yaakov Nemoy wrote: > Yes, you are correct, fedora should be aligned with products and > projects coming from companies that are 100% open source, optimally. > As a marketing statement, this should be the way to go. Perhaps you > want to use this as leverage with Zarafa to convince them to go more > open, rather than just closing off any possibilities you have to use > your position as a marketing team to build up a good relationship > where a community member has already done the heavy lifting. I am more fearful of an opposite possibility. That companies can "buy" themselves in to Fedora marketing. Noboidy brought this up *yet* but soonish someone will propose that companies could "sponsor" this. It is a natural thing to think about but it would be so wrong to do. And with complete I mean that any fedora user must be able to use all the features of a project in the repos. If whatever part of the expected featureset needs external and possibly non-opne components, we cannot promote it. Zarafa is not positioning itself on its own website as "All advantages of Micrososft Exchange at 50% of the costs" [1]. The version we have in the repos also seems to have a limit of 3 outlook users according to [2]. So in this specific case I do have some pain in promoting it. I would even go as far as saying that if the version of Zarafa in Fedora really has this 3 user limit it is against the philosophy and spirit of Fedora. But that is not my call. As Zarafa is in the repos, I am sure this aspect has been throughly checked. But as outlook integreation is a strong selling point for Zarafa, our users will expect this functionality to work. If it doesn't do that, we have a problem. And that is why I am not supportive of promoting it beyond the fact that Zarafa is in the repo. jan [1] http://www.zarafa.com/ [2] http://www.zarafa.com/content/editions -- Jan H Wildeboer | EMEA Open Source Affairs | Office: +49 (0)89 205071-207 Red Hat GmbH | Mobile: +49 (0)174 33 23 249 Technopark II, Haus C | Fax: +49 (0)89 205071-111 Werner-von-Siemens-Ring 11 -15 | 85630 Grasbrunn | _____________________________________________________________________ Reg. Adresse: Red Hat GmbH, Technopark II, Haus C, Werner-von-Siemens-Ring 11 -15 85630 Grasbrunn, Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Muenchen HRB 153243 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Brendan Lane, Charlie Peters, Michael Cunningham, Charles Cachera _____________________________________________________________________ GPG Key: 3AC3C8AB Fingerprint: 3D1E C4E0 DD67 E16D E47A 9564 A72F 5C39 3AC3 C8AB -- marketing mailing list marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing