Michael J. Knox wrote:
Hi Rahul,
Not a conspiracy theory at all, I was in IRC chatting with Mike Harris
chatting about this subject, I was there reading the fedora-devel@
mailing lists. I am nor blind nor stupid. To state that I am spreading a
"conspiracy theory" is crap. Thanks Rahul.
The conspiracy theory is that we are making things deliberately a black
art which is not true at all.
Basically "The conclusion was that the interests of Fedora users using
proprietary NVidia modules outweigh the interests of other users who
would benefit from this update."[1]
Amazingly bad conclusion. So much for a detailed explanation of the
process. We might as well as have not discussed this issue and conveyed
the ideas better. What instead happened was that at the time we were
discussing this issue, the Xorg maintainer happened to Ajax and he had
no intention on his own to provide a update and we decided that we need
to have a general update policy and until then the updates would be a
maintainer's decision.
I was also there when everyone was berating Eric S. Raymond for the mere
suggestion of RedHat making it easier for end users to add MP3 and DVD
support. The sheer notation of doing so, left the fedora-devel mailing
looking like a kindergarden play yard (not too mention IRC).Fedora's
attitude towards those that do need 3rd party, non-distributable or
non-free, is doing it damage. I am just telling you how it is out there,
out side your little RedHat office....
First, lets stop with belittling other people. My Fedora work has
nothing to do with Red Hat. I have been involved with Fedora much before
I joined Red Hat so what office I am in is completely irrelevant to the
current discussion. I have spend enough time "out there" too to
understand the issues that pop up quite often.
ESR didnt merely come up with a polite request to add MP3 support. He
claimed incorrect things about the patents not covering decoders. The
mail was full of inflammatory leads.
Its not a conspiracy when I front up to a LUG and have to answer the
whys? of users not interested in using Fedora and then relay that to the
ambassador list!!
If some users wont be interested until we include proprietary software
by default in Fedora, then we are already aware of that. As a
ambassadors, it would be your job to point out the project's objectives
politely.
Instead of telling me I am spreading "unfounded claims" and "conspiracy
theories" on what I have just relied to you, based on first hand end
user experiences, why don't you make a founded effort to help set the
story straight?
Yep. I have already set the stories straight many times and I will
continue to do so.
Why don't you, as a member of the Fedora Project Board
and a member of the Fedora Ambassador Steering commitee, do something to
help the Fedora advocates actually advocate for their platform of
choice, instead of telling to "stop the silly conspiracy theories" ?
Or is that too much to expect?
You assume this is not already been done. Suffice to say, this is not true.
Rahul
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