Il giorno 22/ago/06, alle ore 06:16, Rahul ha scritto:
It boild down paying attention to fancier, little, useful visual and "desktop" tricks, that enhance user experience (hidden window asking for root password instead of something that focuses the attention and so on ...
The 90% of people haven't got a nice connection, do we want to cut them out _also_ because we haven't thought a way to go in their "direction" ?? Italy, one of the 7th most rich and industrialized country in the world has still no fibre connection, and *DSL are "slow", strongly asymetrical and most of the time people have got pay per hours connections. What in Eastern Europe ? South America ? and so on ...
but to me it seems you're avoiding to see my point :-) In universe / multiverse we have 99% of any additional software one can use. Then we can se "backports" (and these are self explainatory) a "commercial" repo by Canonical (which get some way of agreement to distribute Opera or Real with contracts that - i think - could be obtained by any distro provided there's interest into it - Skype in Mandriva installation media comes to my mind too). The rest of "ubuntu 3rd party repos" are for "elite" needs into specific areas. For Fedora we have (at least) the repos listed here: where there's no clear policy of what goes where.
But there could be a strict policy on how to provide packages for the distro. This issue i think it's related to the licences present in FC that's been discussed some (recent) time ago here or in the board list. When the licence's type area will become more "clear" we should find a way to make people come into Extras or to Extras-nonfree (to say) instead of making their "personal" repo, summoning up the community efforts in few areas. I'd like my distro to have the major number of precompiled packages available, no matter what.
Indeed. But if I need these repos to get the software i need /want to test to run my machine productively and i have permanent, several issues with them i'll change my distro. Again Fedora has come close to my need with 5 and it's mono inclusion and such, but still it's too "complicated" to make it run on many of my friend's machines since the issues i see using the various repos (or yum when they're with slow lines). I have been present at the times at Fedora and at the time for Ubuntu, and they since the beginning have fought to be stable as Debian and easy as RH/SuSE. Fedora has been (to cite Max's word) "We strive to produce a quality distribution of free software that is cutting-edge, pushes the envelope of new open source technology, and is also robust enough that it can be relied on for server or desktop use." To me it somewhat sounds like "Fedora is an hacker toy, build to pleasure is quest for knowledge without crashing every now and then", which is fine, but then at some point I, as user, and many like me i think, may leave this land. |
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