On Wed, 2006-08-09 at 12:59 +0530, Rahul wrote: > Paul W. Frields wrote: > > On Tue, 2006-08-08 at 14:53 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > >> Le Mar 8 août 2006 13:14, Paul W. Frields a écrit : > >> > >>>> We have a great product. That needs promoting and user feed back. > >>> The first is what Marketing is for. The second is what Bugzilla is for. > >> I strongly disagree. > > [...snip...] > > > > Thank you Nicolas, this is the first substantial discussion I've seen on > > this topic. I really have no opposition to a SIG for this work, but I > > want to see it hashed out on the appropriate lists transparently, not > > unilaterally announced. Unless I missed the big discussion elsewhere -- > > which is possible; unlike the superhuman Rahul, I monitor only a subset > > of the work going on! (I don't know how he does it, honestly.) > > > > Nicolas comments can be summed up as Red Hat does more work on upstream > than it does on polish which is what I said in the earlier board > discussions too. You shouldnt be missing that being a member yourself. Rahul, It's possible that you're missing the point of this particular discussion. It wasn't that I don't understand the potential goals of a Usability initiative (I do), nor that I don't understand a need for it (I do), nor that I didn't understand Nicolas' comments (I did). The entire problem -- and you will see the threads on fedora-advisory-board to this effect -- is that announcements are being made about "official" Feodra projects without any prior discussion about those needs, setting concrete goals and objectives, and so forth. I came back with some comments intended to raise issues about possible duplication of effort and get people talking about it. I don't mind being wrong, but the discussion needs to take place. My final comment was intended to point out that I hadn't seen any of this discussion, although there was a possibility they were being held somewhere that I hadn't seen them. Those should be community discussions like RFCs where interested parties can hash them out before bringing them to the proper venue for backing. I haven't missed your comments in board meetings, but they don't constitute public discussion either, AFAICT. -- Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 Fedora Project Board: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board Fedora Docs Project: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject
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