Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Fedora usability : a new project?

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Hi,


Rahul,

It's possible that you're missing the point of this particular
discussion.  It wasn't that I don't understand the potential goals of a
Usability initiative (I do), nor that I don't understand a need for it
(I do), nor that I didn't understand Nicolas' comments (I did).  The
entire problem -- and you will see the threads on fedora-advisory-board
to this effect -- is that announcements are being made about "official"
Feodra projects without any prior discussion about those needs, setting
concrete goals and objectives, and so forth.  I came back with some
comments intended to raise issues about possible duplication of effort
and get people talking about it.  I don't mind being wrong, but the
discussion needs to take place.

Sure. We definitely did expect discussions to take place. Wider set of announcements depend on fedora-announce list mails being moderated and we need to make sure we dont end up announcing things without the right ideas in place. When a new sub project is being announced, it gets a lot of attention and we would do better to explain things properly and give plenty of room for potential contributors to work their magic.



My final comment was intended to point out that I hadn't seen any of
this discussion, although there was a possibility they were being held
somewhere that I hadn't seen them.  Those should be community
discussions like RFCs where interested parties can hash them out before
bringing them to the proper venue for backing.

I haven't missed your comments in board meetings, but they don't
constitute public discussion either, AFAICT.

They arent public discussions as such but I wasnt expressing a fundamentally new idea. See the problem is not that we dont know the issues involved but that our priorities have been elsewhere and arguably misaligned but unless there is more people going to contribute and fix the issues announcing a new project isnt going to change things. The immediate reactions I see to a new project discussion involve is people listing their favorite alleged issues and that wont get us very far.


Rahul

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