Re: Minetest Broken

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On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 1:01 AM John M. Harris Jr <johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, December 17, 2019 10:35:22 AM MST Aleksandra Fedorova wrote:
> > Hi, Dennis,
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 5:13 PM Dennis Payne <dulsi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > I never explicitly enabled the module to my knowledge. Did upgrading at
> > > some point enable the module? How are people supposed to know that a
> > > module is defunct and stop using it? If save files modified by minetest
> > > 5 don't work with minetest 4, are we telling people "Sorry we enabled
> > > the minetest module automatically. You can wait to Fedora 32 to load
> > > those save files."?
> >
> > Minetest:5 stream was enabled by default so you got it installed
> > automatically.
> >
> > And to clarify, Gwyn is not to blame here. She is helping with the package,
> > but it is me and Igor who made this mess. And sorry that we didn't realize
> > the full consequences.
> >
> > Let's look at our options to fix it.
> >
> > Current state:
> >
> > 1) for rawhide modules are disabled, version 5.1.0 is available in the repo
> > as a regular package;
> >
> > 2) for f30 and f31:
> >     - there is a version 4.17 available as a regular package
> >     - there is a module for minetest:5 which is enabled by default, it
> > includes version 5.0.0-1 which can not be installed because of dependencies.
> >
> > 3) modular repo is deprecated.
> >
> > What we can do:
> >
> > I think we should resurrect modular repo for minetest but only for fedora
> > 30 and fedora 31. This will allow us to publish an update to 5.1.0 via
> > module update process, which will solve the current issue. Then we can
> > decide whether or not we actually want to keep two versions of minetest
> > package in Fedora.
> >
> > I asked Igor for admin access to modular repo [1] so i can reintroduce the
> > module config. Once I get it, I will build a 5.1.0 version for f30 and f31
> > through it.
> >
> > As a temporary workaround you can install the rpm from scratch build [2].
> >
> > [1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/modules/minetest/
> >
> > [2] https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=39690300
> > https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/300/39690300/minetest-5.1.0-1
> > .fc31.x86_64.rpm
> > https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/300/39690300/minetest-server
> > -5.1.0-1.fc31.x86_64.rpm
> > > I see gimp also enabled as a module. So at some point I might have a
> > > problem with that as well and need to disable the module.
> > >
> > > Don't get me wrong. I think it is great that we have the ability to
> > > enable modules to install newer versions. But I don't think we should
> > > enable them automatically especially if we can drop support at any
> > > moment.
>
> Wait, how did this get enabled as a default module without FESCo approval?
>

This happened before FESCo policy was defined.

-- 
Aleksandra Fedorova
bookwar
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