On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 09:52:56 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On Sun, 2006-04-23 at 01:54 -0500, Callum Lerwick wrote: > > On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 13:47 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > > > In the meantime, the Packaging Guidelines should be updated to clarify > > > when use of fedora-usermngt is warranted. I realize there's some > > > controversy involved, so should FESCO get involved to officially > > > bless/veto the use of fedora-usermngt? > > > > Yes please. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ReviewGuidelines <-- I fail to find fedora-usermgmt in there. It's not mentioned in the Packaging Guidelines either. > Well, though I'd appreciate a decision to remove fedora-usermngt, I > don't think such a decision would be helpful, because this isn't a > political issue to draw an arbitrary decision or to vote on, but a > controversial technical issue. It is not _so_ controversial on the technical level as a recent thread on this list has demonstrated. There is no alternative implementation available. The problem that is left is that a few opponents, who don't have any interest in what problems fedora-usermgmt solves, show ignorance with regard to its benefits. In the recent thread that made it quite tiresome to repeat pointing out the benefits of automated [e.g. kickstart based, network based] installations. > One party wants to make fedora-usermgnt mandatory, the other party > considers it script-kiddy crap". > > I am a member of the latter party and would consider FESCO drawing a > decision "pro fedora-usermgnt" as a severe project leadership fault and > them abusing their "management powers" to overrule technical expertise. Calm down. For example, I see no point in making it mandatory as long as such technology is not available in Fedora Core. Transparent relocation of uids/gids is a problem which is not easy to solve. fedora-usermgmt makes it semi-transparent only. Trying to get it included in shadow-utils is cheap talk. -- fedora-extras-list mailing list fedora-extras-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-extras-list