On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:30:14 +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > We still have no defined EOL Policy for Fedora Extras -- there were some > ideas and concepts floating around, but no real policy came out of it so > far. I'd really like to get this solved somehow soon. That's why I'm > writing this mail. Long mail, short story: Do we agree on common goals with regard to FE? I'm not sure we do. Instead of discussing EOL policy bottom-up for FE3, how about we discuss in general _what_ we at Fedora Extras _try_ to offer? > mailinglist-archives: > > > - Now that FC3 was transfered to Legacy we need some kind of policy for > FE3, too -- users want to know if FE3 is still completely supported. Reason: package maintainers often move on to the current if not latest release of FC and don't run an older FC anymore. So they don't do any run-time evaluation of upgrades/updates anymore. Unless they are the "if it builds, push it" type of packagers, they don't release any upgrades which they don't use regularly themselves. Further, the older a release of FC gets, the more difficult security related version upgrades become, if they require upgraded dependencies. This also leads to coordination and compatibility requirements between FE and Fedora Legacy. > - We cannot offer an old FE which is out-of-date or possible insecure at > least partially. Which means, there's no need to shut down a repo, but the project ought to announce the "updates support level users can expect" compared with Extras for the current release of FC. > - It's Extras. It's unsupported by nature. That's brain-fart type of comment. Suitable for flame-wars, not for serious attempts at discussing this issue. Hopefully we all know what kind of "support" Fedora Extras is about. > - How many fire and forget packages are sitting in Extras? Same here. :( Let's shut down the whole show just because of a few black sheep. > And some concrete plans: > - shove FE3 into a Maintenance state for now -- no new packages, no big > updates but still updates in case of security problems What is "concrete" about this suggestion? It's just another proposal which doesn't suggest _who_ performs the updates. Assume that some packagers will _refuse_ releasing updates for a legacy FC. > - we create an extras legacy team that takes over FE3 when FC3 is > transfered to legacy +1 This is the only realistic suggestion. No community developer interest, no show. -- fedora-extras-list mailing list fedora-extras-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-extras-list
