-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/04/2010 11:13 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 11:48:07PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: >> On Fri, 2010-10-01 at 16:44 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: >>> On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 01:19:52PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: >>>> On Fri, 2010-10-01 at 16:07 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: >>>> >>>>>> Yeah, if we want to ship one, gwibber is pretty much the only option, >>>>>> since it's most likely too late to fix pino before F14 is released. The >>>>>> big cons about gwibber, in my opinion is the fairly poor performance >>>>>> I've experienced with it (tho I last used it about 2 months ago) and the >>>>>> number of dependencies it would pull into the livecd. >>>>> >>>>> Doesn't post-Beta seem too late to do this? Better to have people >>>>> simply use their browser I'd think. >>>> >>>> well, we have to make *some* kind of post-beta change here, since as I >>>> said the current situation blocks the release. I don't think subbing in >>>> gwibber for pino is a particularly scary change, all we'd have to check >>>> is if it goes over the size limit, and if it works, which is about half >>>> an hour of effort. >>> >>> Right, the uncertainty I have is really around the functionality of >>> the new suggested default client, as opposed to "let's not do >>> anything." My preference would be a simple removal of pino for no >>> other reason than least disturbance of the Force. >> >> I agree that removing pino, together with a suitable note in the release >> notes, is the safest route at this point. > > Adding the docs@ list to the cc so that they are aware of the need for > a release note for this. Docs folks, feel free to ask questions here > on desktop@ as needed to figure out the best text. > So pino needs to be removed and replaced by Gwibber in the Release Notes? It will be tight but I think that change can be made. I'd appreciate someone to come with the text that needs to be used for this replacement. - --Eric -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJMqfIgAAoJEDbiLlqcYamx1qgQAIIyQwprX3PG8gRux1r2d/Fq otJp4UyZ4eqe05YaTkULSxDsDZtTUs64Be0Qhkx5ZRPlM17eTZyCfAvcYaGSaxM+ WHWxL1t++lWsDbOlZuf4rHr1JH+T+8hGU21pJUwE+xlTBfSRsRtqLu+1mQOiEXLv 2H+plywOwgLl9DVjVcYALK/2rgy6L0I6o2z0TqaVUT3B2Jxt23P0XHZv/GNz2zFg tcrguVUPd+FQEO5B3pwu6nD7sgXi21aTWV/H+/0+5D6j6VNV3Q8vcZvvjomcUscO nqDiNbssKKoajRlZwpKAkOyb/VMJ6JgIqz5teCu3WPZuj43qCDlUuTsCDJCwOAxf l65TSsEK7iFY111Uk2gkyYCwEV6lccDSSaUIiZh3DlBVSb/bT0CwIaM4cfGmK36U HJyvYYIfZderK6mwU1MmbFWJnTBHZKgcppWJ0gqf6zBaV1JPHp2y7IoYAX7mwAUp OY4Hu/inQS58FpGLt/9Y7hcjBNtqvwtvZ3rzOka12g42T8GjItyaCD7PM0nzb0Sm RQm/H4NvTsq5Kv73893LZ6HEwHdqeHKmdz82zbYPYzXKFOb+ugtK6+VHQxQcZPCb pqGK3MNgixWe4z/sNGQ7oUSrocRdSEdpl1x5Upq2Epy4iz8+aNnEwFZqBtMf4oBD q6WQDHcO57iEypzI/DD5 =Sx0N -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- docs mailing list docs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/docs