On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 03:59:48PM -0400, Brian Wheeler wrote: > > Well, I'm a long time user and I don't see what the big deal is. There > are several people on this list which seem to announce that "<insert > change here> is the one that's going to drive long time users away" > and/or "time to look for a new distribution" semi-regularly... yet they > (long time users) are still here. I think that many are not as present as before. Especially compared with the time of extra+devel. And it also seems to me that many long time users are still there but don't use fedora much anymore -- they still want to influence next RHEL. Also I don't think if there are others like me, but I thought that opening to the community would lead to more work in common with (old-timers) technical users, with Red Hat still taking the lead nevertheless as before. But even after some time this didn't happened. I don't use any release anymore, but I still use rawhide because I wanted to help with maintaining pieces of software that I care about, but this is too difficult because upstream-fedora people don't care to a point that I fear that my actions are counter-productive in the end. Today the only motivation that keeps me lurking around fedora is EPEL. -- Pat -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list