On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Dax Kelson <dkelson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Most (all?) of the technologies you mentioned are cross-distribution. Believe what you want. Different distros pick up different technology changes at different times. They do not all move as a block. PolicyKit and its authorization concepts being a current area where we lead the integration and we are breaking established traditional practises to get to something better. PolicyKit still blows my mind I haven't really figure out how to work with it as an admin. I'm still getting comfortable with how to script interaction with HAL and DBUS to deal with removable devices as an admin and not a user. Far more disruptive and more important than dickering over what vt anything defaults to appearing on. the cross distro tty behavior issue with regard to tty initialization is a FANTASY. Its is concensus by inaction and a lack of discussion. People took an arbitrary inittab example and have propagated it..mindlessly. No attempt at cross-distribution standardization addresses this as an expectation on behavior. jef"At some point...all phones were rotary dial..until someone made a push button phone. Dear god, my fingers have to move in a completely different pattern to do get exactly the same work done.....that's incompatible...think of the children....down with push button phones!"spaleta -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list