On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 08:11 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > Just as long as "old school" also gets rid of udev and everything hal > or dbus related and brings back magicdev AND linuxconf! Oh and turns > off selinux off...gives me ipchains as a firewall and disables ssh and > gives me rsh instead as the only remote shell....and gives me a fvwm > desktop using xdm as the login manager. > > -jef"seriously the udev/hal stuff was a far more fundamental and far > reaching technology shift than which vt X is running on. The flipside > to all the arguments here is all gettys could be off by default unless > local admins want them on..and at that point its a customization and > admins can do whatever the hell they want with their gettys. I admin > a small number of systems, and the reality is I can actually live with > gettys off by default. If I need them I can enable them on the systems > that need them."spaleta Most (all?) of the technologies you mentioned are cross-distribution. Everybody switched, compatibility across distributions was maintained. Books and brains were free to drop the old ways and just document and learn the new ways. This X tty change is not comparable. Apples and Oranges. Dax Kelson Guru Labs -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list