I've been quietly lurking for ages now, but this is really too much. So the argument is "you can't teach and old dog new tricks"? I am an "old" user by this definition (though I prefer emacs to vi) and I don't see any problems with this at all. It looks substantially nicer than it did before (Kudos to everyone involved with this) and would appear to the newer-to-linux set. It also brings a vast improvement for me: when the x server restarts my monitor takes a bit to resync ... causing a delay of 1+ seconds on each restart before the picture is usable. Hitting alt-f2 isn't any harder than hitting alt-f1, and if you've got X as you're primary display (via runlevel 5) then I'd argue that X _is_ the first virtual console. My only complaint is that I'd like to be able to set a console to 80x25 but I haven't figured out how to do that yet. Brian On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 20:09 +0300, Dmitry Butskoy wrote: > Christopher Stone wrote: > > > > I don't see how tty7 or tty1 makes any difference to a desktop user, > > or a server user, or a newbie or an expert. > > It makes a difference for "old" user. > > Some old age users (35+) began when the desktop was poor and monitors > were bad. Very often they started on a serial "dumb" tty (like vt100), > and use Vi to type their programs and cmdline for everything else. > > For the same reason, why you cannot cause your grandmother to love > modern club music (she still prefer classic or rock-n-roll), the old > Linux users still prefer (yes, it is so!) to use Linux consoles. Someone > use it rarely, someone every day. > > Certainly it is impossible to not use GUI now, and surely they use GUI. > But because of it habits, they switch to consoles often enough. In other > words, they do Ctrl-Alt-Fn to go to a console, and Alt-F7 to go to X. > And they press this keys every day every hour. > > When you go to change tty7 to tty1, you cause them to change their > habits from Ctrl-ALt-F1/Alt-F7 to Ctlr-Alt-F2/Alt-F1. It is not good. > Why? Try to cause your grandmother to listen modern music, she will > answer you... > > Please note, that Linux (and Fedora) is not for "young people" only. It > is for "all the people". Not for "young enthusiasts", there are a lot of > "already not young" enthusiasts. The community consisting only from > young men, is impractical in the real serious world... > > > ~buc > -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
