On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:44 +0100, Olivier Galibert wrote: > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 11:08:03AM -0400, Casey Dahlin wrote: > > "Do I /really/ care?" > > > > Look at the F keys on your keyboard. The whole of your gripe lies within > > the space of 6 inches. Lets not have a flame war today. Lets just move > > our habits 6 inches to the left and let life be good. > > 6 inches to the left is the phone. > > Yes, I care. The self-declared "desktop" guys, which for most of them > don't seem to have met a user in their life, have decided a while ago > that whoever doesn't fit their imaginary use case is irrelevant and > can be ignored. 10+ years old conventions and habits are unimportant > and can be ignored if it gives them less work to do what they want to > have. This is just one more in a series. > > Meanwhile, Ubuntu runs rings around Fedora when it comes to popularity > for the desktop, and the server experience grows increasingly worse. Partly because they make hard decisions and ignore certain segments of the Linux user-base to produce well-polished, easy-to-use distribution. Ubuntu enabled NetworkManager way before we did so in Fedora. I personally wouldn't have done that as early as they did (and I didn't push for it in Fedora for that reason), and doing so didn't work for some of Ubuntu's users. But they kept it on anyway because for most of their target audience, it improved their lives. Otherwise they would have turned it off years ago. Were there Ubuntu users who were pissed off that arcane kernel boot messages were covered up by a pretty bootsplash? Did they get angry and go away? Ubuntu is Ubuntu precisely because of the controversial choices that the people driving the distribution made. Is their popularity the result of the "correctness" of any of these hard choices? Maybe. Dan -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
