On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 12:48:54 +0200 mcepl@xxxxxxxxxx (Matej Cepl) wrote: > On 2008-10-07, 06:37 GMT, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > > Afaics and iirc it was announced just 24 hours before the > > meeting in question that the sbin feature is going to be > > discussed: > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-August/msg00806.html > > > > Do you consider that enough time to voice objections? I don't. But > > that's IMHO not a problem in our workflow, as we afaics always can > > make adjustments even when things got decided. > > And I think, this is much more important than the matter here > itself. Last year there was another huge flamewar about replacing > sysvinit with upstart. Lot and lot of well argued arguments were > thrown against upstart (it doesn't make much difference, only > trouble) so I thought that this idea is safely in the grave. > Except couple of weeks after the last flames were vanquished, yum > brought me upstart replacing sysvinit. Did this email come from the past? Do we really want to talk about upstart again? > Does anybody from FESCO cares about what's discussed here, or do > they let us waste our time and decide whatever they wanted all > the time anyway? I don't speak for FESCo, but I do care what gets discussed here. I however don't think it should just be a majority rule or 'he who shouts loudest' or even 'who we think "won" the discussion. There were good reasons for Upstart, and a majority of FESCo decided the feature was worth it. I think the mailing lists (and the FUDcon session on upstart) were both valuable input into this decision making. > (sorry for offended tone of the message, but I am offended by > this), I'm sorry you're offended. We can't please everyone all the time with every decision. If you don't like the decisions, feel free to run for FESCo and/or vote/not vote for people who you disagree with. > Matěj kevin
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