On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 01:57:31AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > PA completely ignores alsa device indexes. Instead it uses HAL UDIs > for identifiying devices, which is much more useful. When PA is first > started up and no default audio device is configured, then PA will > pick one. It is not defined which one it will pick, and as it appears > it picked the wrong one for you. > > After login you can change the default device by right-clicking on it > in paucontrol. However, that setting is per-user, so it won't have any > effect on gdm. > > I thought of writing a small module for PA which in the case that no > default device is configured will try some heuristic to find a > suitable default (i.e. prefer PCI over USB over Bluetooth cards). Not > sure this would fully fix your problem though. This may be a crazy idea--but why don't we just make the default output device "all devices"--copy the audio streams to every device until the user selects a specific device as the default. This would neatly solve the issue in this thread as well as other peoples' confusion of "why do I have no sound" when the sound is being directed to a card without any speakers attached. There should be a way to override this system-wide default as well. Alternatively, perhaps hal-based quirks can specify the system-specific default sound output device. e.g. for laptops or desktop models the built-in soundcard would be a sane default. If there is no hal quirk for the current system, you could fall back to "all output devices" or the heuristics you describe above. Basically: 1. system factory default: output to all sound cards simultaneously 2. system custom default: either hal-quirk based, heuristic-based, or set by sysadmin. 3. per user setting: as we have now, per user default output device setting. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list