On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 12:42 -0400, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 12:39 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > I'm not arguing that companies that shy away from open source in general > > or the GPL in particular always do so for good reasons. > > Where "good reason" means "gross misunderstanding of the GPL licenses > and OpenSource development in general". This sort of fanboyism gets old in a hurry. The IBM/Common Public License was developed by IBM lawyers. Are you seriously suggesting that they exhibit "gross misunderstanding of the GPL licenses and OpenSource [sic] development in general"? If so, I think you'll find that even the FSF doesn't share your opinion. One of IBM's concerns that led to the development of the IPL/CPL was a lack of protection against patent abuses in GPLv2. The FSF listed the IPL/CPL as a "free software license incompatible with the GPL". They dubbed the patent clauses (paraphrasing) "not a bad idea, but still incompatible". Were IBM's concerns born of "gross misunderstanding of the GPL licenses and OpenSource development in general"? Well, similar protections ended up in GPLv3. You be the judge. Is the problem solved by GPLv3? No: IBM seems content with the IPL/CPL for a lot of its software (including contributions to a project I work on). And the IPL/CPL is still a free software license incompatible with the GPL. Changing IBM's opinion is a long and difficult process that takes time and energy people would prefer to spend developing new code, and with no guarantee of success in the end. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list