I think there that there is a real need for the "CreatingPackageHowTo" page. The "RPM Guide" by Eric Foster-Johnson is not a bad book, nor is "Maximum RPM". However... Documents like the "RPM Guide" tend to be generic for any distro, and fail to give enough Fedora-specific info. E.G, for _Fedora_: * You need to know about "yum install rpmdevtools", and "rpmdev-setuptree". * For each tag, you need to know the Fedora rules, right when you learn about the tag. E.G., generic docs will tell you "Summary:" exists, but not "Use American English". For "Group:" where do you find the list of groups? For "License:", where's the list of license abbreviations? * %build should use%{?_smp_mflags} with make, where appropriate. * There are lots of Fedora-specific guidelines that should an intro document should link to, if you're creating Fedora packages. Many of the documents on RPM don't seem have clear statements explaining misleading terminology, and as a result they're very confusing. The "build directory" and "build root" are fundamentally different, yet many existing docs don't make it _clear_ that there is a difference. The "%install" section doesn't actually do the final software install (when you have a build root), but this is often not made clear; a reader might think that's what is run when users install a binary RPM. Finally, most of the RPM docs aren't well-maintained. For example, Fedora packages are supposed to use "%check", which is essentially undocumented, and are supposed to AVOID "%makeinstall" if they can. WHY aren't the docs maintained? I believe a key reason is that they aren't on a Wiki. Wikis (by their nature) are easy to update/fix, and thus they tend to be more up-to-date. I don't think it has to be either/or. The "CreatingPackageHowTo" page gives the overall info, and then links to specific chapters for specific information when it's needed. --- David A. Wheeler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list