On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 10:53 -0500, Callum Lerwick wrote: On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Matthew Saltzman <mjs@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 17:04 -0400, Horst H. von Brand wrote: > > Matthew Saltzman <mjs@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Plenty of companies that would be willing to release free software are > > > leery of releasing it as GPL > > > > Why? > > You'd have to ask their lawyers. But it's a fact. > > > > > > and of using GPL software. > > > > Now that is completely unwarranted. > > You'd have to tell their lawyers. But it's a fact. > As much as I hate to drag on this clusterfsck of zelotry any longer, I can't let this bullshit fly unopposed. Here, I'll stick to a concrete example: Linden Lab is a small start-up, which may or may not even be pulling a profit yet, running off venture capital. They developed a closed-source virtual world, Second Life. A year ago they chose to release their client open source. What license did they choose? They chose the GPLv2. Think about it, if they had used a BSD-style license, some other company could take their code, start up their own for-profit service, and profit off Linden Lab's work without giving anything back, quite possibly putting Linden Lab out of business. Their investors would have never let that happen. Without a license like the GPL, which ensures that derived works remain free, Linden Lab would have never open sourced the Second Life client. And that's a fact. Good for them. (No sarcasm intended.) But an anecdote is not a proof. I'm not arguing that companies that shy away from open source in general or the GPL in particular always do so for good reasons. But it's clear from the variety of licenses available that a significant number of developers perceive that there are issues with the GPL that make them uncomfortable, even if they are generally pro-FOSS. The GPL is not the only license that protects code released under it from incorporation into proprietary products. But some clauses in the GPL prevent interoperability with other software that (for whatever reason) was released under different licenses that even the FSF acknowledges are in the spirit of freedom and open source. That's too bad for free and open-source software. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list