On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Toshio Kuratomi <a.badger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Christopher Stone wrote: >> >> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 6:24 PM, Josh Boyer <jwboyer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, 20 May 2008 15:54:52 -0700 >>> "Christopher Stone" <chris.stone@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> If it's that simple, you should be able to do it yourself. The code is >>>>> there. Have at it. >>>>> >>>>> (HINT: It's not simple at all) >>>> >>>> According to this thread it seems pretty simple actually: >>>> >>>> http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=188645 >>> >>> Sure. Creating them locally is simple. Then all you'd have to do is >>> get it past review, get the primary Xorg maintainer to agree, and >>> support it for the entire release. Which includes handling all the bug >>> reports for it. Which you might get a lot of and won't be able >>> to do a damn thing about because of binary drivers. >> >> I don't give a hoot if the packages are supported or not, I just want >> an easy way to get my nVidia card working. All you people do is gripe >> and moan about how much work it would be and all this and that. Look, >> its just a matter of adding rpms to a repo, make an "unsupported" repo >> if you have to. The bottom line is you want to have as many people >> testing the OS as possible. >> > Then please, make your own repo for those people who do not want supported, > qa'd, bug-fixed packages. However, in Fedora all of these things fit into > the definition of a maintained package. So by that measure I'd say ajax is > doing a very, very good job making sure Fedora 9 will have a robust upstream > community supporting it for the life of the release whereas sticking the old > xorg version into the distro when its known that no one's going to spend > time working on it would be plainly irresponsible. > >>>> If redhat wants to pay me $100k a year, I'll happily make xorg compat >>>> rpms in about one day. Thank you very much. >>> >>> I believe that shows your fundamental lack of understanding about >>> Fedora and open source software on many levels. >> >> I believe you have no idea what you are talking about. If I >> maintained a package which I knew was not going to work with 50% of >> the users hardware, and I was being paid to maintain this package, >> then I certainly would spend some time to allow those 50% a way to use >> their hardware with the rest of the OS. Nothing more to it than that, >> it has nothing to do with open source, it has everything to do with >> being professional. >> > Uhm... xorg-x11-drv-vesa? xorg-x11-drv-nv? xorg-x11-drv-nouveau? I think > some time has been spent "to allow those 50% a way to use their hardware > with the rest of the OS". > > You're asking for the wrong thing here. You want X to support optional > features of your hardware. The means you're proposing to accomplish this is > by adding an unmaintained software package into the distro until a > proprietary driver is fixed to support it. This doesn't strike me as a good > way for Fedora to proceed and you're unlikely to get any traction for > making a change there. Why can't they just be added to updates-testing and left there? Packages in this repo are not supported in the same sense as the ones in updates. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list