Re: Xorg 1.5 missed the train?

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On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Jeff Spaleta <jspaleta@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Christopher Stone
> <chris.stone@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Until nVidia gets their act together?? What the H.E. double hockey
>> sticks are you talking about?  nVidia can't do anything until xorg's
>> ABI is *stable*.  They cannot keep chasing a moving target.  If xorg
>> declared today that the ABI will be stable then perhaps nVidia can get
>> working on new drivers.  Perhaps xorg has already done this??
>
> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=107725
> 05-13-08, 12:48 AM
> "I got assurance from the release manager that the ABI won't be
> changing between now and the official xserver 1.5 release, so the ABI
> will be marked as supported in the next driver release so that
> -ignoreABI won't be required."

Okay, this is good news.  I'll post on the nVidia forums to make sure
they know.  I still think it's a bit uncalled for to say nVidia should
get their act together when the ABI was only declared stable last
week.

>
>>
>> And I don't see why you can't have two different xorg packages.  We
>> have other compat packages with gcc and libstdc++, etc...
>
> I think you are over-simplifying the complexity of what it would take
> to make such a scheme work for the "framework" that is X.  If you can
> do it, and make it work seemlessly, more power to you. But I have no
> doubt that it is wrong to make this sort of demand on ajax's time.
> We've seen compatibility issues in the past with regard to nvidia on
> release day. There is absolutely nothing new here.

As I stated in my original post "just how hard can it be to provide
compatibility packages?"  From what I understand, you could just drop
in the F8 packages right into F9 and that's all that is required.
Then nVidia users could use the f8 version of xorg while everyone else
could use the f9 version.  Why is it not that simple?

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