Jeff Spaleta wrote:
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
This particular thread is about a specific change proposed for fedora -
which if made will make it more complicated to install VMWare and probably
many other things. Others have been about how other distributions make
things easier for their users. Or how it is bad that fedora no longer works
with japackage.org. By nature, those things are fedora-specific.
There no 'standard' by which to measure the value of change. If all
distros are doing things differently you can't single us out for
making a change that breaks cross-distro compatibility that doesn't
already exist. The only thing you've pointed to so far is LSB... are
you attempting to claim we are breaking LSB with this change?
No, just that LSB is currently the worst of all worlds. That is, if
you've moved anything to comply with it you've broken your own backwards
compatibility and not really gained anything because it doesn't go far
enough to provide the real value of portable and predictable installs
across versions. Until it dictates portability it is just a moving
target of arbitrary locations.
> Things
are already incompatible.. in a non-standardized way. By putting your
foot down and demanding that we stop our own process to evolve you
aren't solving the underlying problem.
Agreed - it's not just your problem.
Stagnation is not
standardization.
They aren't opposing concepts. It is always possible to maintain
standards while adding new ones.
No matter how we get their...cross-distro
standardization is going to involve change in how each distro
currently does things... so change is unavoidable no matter what
happens. You are arguing for the wrong thing.
Perhaps, but fedora is one of the worst distributions to keep anything
working consistently for years because of its rapid internal changes.
If you can't use something consistent as the example for a standard, how
is it ever going to improve?
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