2008/4/24 Toshio Kuratomi <a.badger@xxxxxxxxx>: > > max bianco wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Thomas M Steenholdt <tmus@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > Hans de Goede wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I propose that we add /sbin and /usr/sbin to the path for normal > users > > > > > (as well as root) for F10? There are plenty of useful tools in there > for > > > > > non-root users (ifconfig, fdisk, parted), and IMHO, any tool which > > > > > assumes the user is root because it lives in /sbin is fundamentally > > > > > broken. The LSB doesn't mandate this (at least, not anywhere I can > see), > > > > > so I propose that we just do it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone opposed to such an action? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not at all, > > > > > > > > +1000000 > > > > > > > > I've been consistenly changing /etc/profile todo exactly this since > the > > > > > > > day I started using RH 4.0 > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Hans > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't that more or less the same reason most windows users login as > > > administrator - The convenience? > > > > > > Note: I know the security risk in the two examples are not in the same > > > ball-park, so there's no need to lecture me on that. > > > > > > I'm merely speaking of convenience and how it sometimes makes it feel > right > > > to do the wrong thing. > > > > > > > > Speaking as probably one of the most inexperienced Fedora users > > subscribing to this list. I whole-heartedly agree with this sentiment. > > Its already been said but I will say it again anyway. Those that know > > how to add things to their $PATH will do just that and not be > > inconvenienced. > > > > Actually, this is not true. I added it to my PATH for years since starting > on RHL-4. But at some point in using Fedora, I stopped because I gave up > on the hassle of adding a custom PATH to /etc/profile.d/ every time I > installed a new box. Additionally, I now have more shell accounts on boxes > that I only drop into once in a while when something's wrong that I've > learned to accept the constant annoyance of not having .*/sbin in my PATH. > > > > > If you don't know how to find ifconfig and add it to > > your $PATH then you probably would just shoot yourself in the foot > > with it, if you don't know but are motivated you can certainly find > > this info easily enough. Our time on this earth is limited but its > > not that limited. > > > > Actually, it is. Every day, lose six minutes from having to retype a sudo > line due to not having a PATH configured with sbin. Most likely when you're > already stressed that something is broken and you just want to find out what > as quickly as possible. > But you are a poweruser and can make the adjustments to your profile so you don't have to retype it everytime. I am talking about people who have no idea what mount,fdisk, or ifconfig are for... Max -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
