On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:48:57PM +0200, Tomas Mraz wrote: > On Thu, 2008-04-24 at 06:23 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:01:15AM +0200, Tomas Mraz wrote: > > > > desktop centric and lacks generality. Some pieces are even close to be > > > > unusable outside of desktops (e.g. NM, PA, SELinux). > > > SELinux? You have to be kidding, aren't you? > > > > Show me an in-production server doing anything slightly out of the bounds of > > the expected, and I'll show you a machine with SELinux turned off. :) > > That it is not yet super-easy to use SELinux on servers doesn't mean > that it is unusable. It is perfectly possible to use it on most servers > but it of course requires some effort from the sysadmin to learn it. If it is that difficult on Fedora/RHEL to have sysadmins add /sbin to their $PATHs if they need it, then we can divert them by asking them to understand selinux first. ;) (I think selinux is a wonderful technology, but it really requires highly skilled admins to perform anything non-trivial - and I'm more than happy with Dan's dumb users' management, me being one of them! :) -- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
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