On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Dimi Paun <dimi@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 17:00 +0100, Lubomir Kundrak wrote: > > Do you have a bug report id? > > If not, please don't bother us with your sound problems. > > If yes, there's no need to spam -devel list with your pet bug. > > So you think that while running a stable (not Rawhide) version > of Fedora, it is normal for me to file a sound-related bug report > every few days when it stops working, for the past 4 years or so? > > And the bug should say what? Sound doesn't work? I tried: kernel > guys says it's ALSA, ALSA says it's SELinux, others say it's PA. > It is hopeless -- a single such report takes many hours to follow > up, and if I'm lucky, I'm told to download some sources and compile > them myself to test them out (which I'll _not_ do on my RPM-managed > production system). > > I don't have problems with filing bug reports, but please realize > it's not sustainable to ask a user to _continuously_ file the same > bug report for a critical system component such as sound. This is > not a pet bug (as you so graciously remarked), but a critical > component on which many business processes revolve > (think Skype+conference). > > We can't keep breaking working systems in a stable release with such > ease as it seems to happen now. This is F8, not Rawhide. It's the > sort of problem that has to be addressed here, not in a bug report. > > I've found pulse/sound to be pretty good, except for an issue with how the pulseaudio daemon starts: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=425763 It seems that sometimes on reboot, pulse gets confused and thinks there already is a copy of the daemon running, and so doesn't start one. If you have the "sometimes pulse works and sometimes it doesn't on reboot" situation, you may want to jump on the above BZ. [There is a hack described there that seems to paper over the issue for me.] tom -- Tom London -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list