Re: default partition scheme without /home - why ?

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Chris Snook wrote:
Valent Turkovic wrote:
2008/3/10 Paul W. Frields <stickster@xxxxxxxxx>:
On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 15:56 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote:
 > 2008/3/10 Paul W. Frields <stickster@xxxxxxxxx>:
 > > On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 14:19 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote:
 > >  > 2008/3/10 Jesse Keating <jkeating@xxxxxxxxxx>:
 > >  > > On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 13:34 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote:
 > >  > >  > Is that on purpose and if it why?
 > >  > >
> > > > Guessing how much space you'll need in your non /home partitions over > > > > time is difficult. Only you know how your install will be used. That's > > > > why the installer defaults to the easiest thing to guess; How much boot > > > > space you'll need, and how much swap space. However since you know how > > > > your install is going to be used, you are best to make those estimations
 > >  > >  and setup your /home as you want it.
 > >  > >
 > >  > >  --
 > >  > >  Jesse Keating
 > >  > >  Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours?
 > >  >
 > >  > Fedora Live CD target audience are desktop users, right? I as a
 > >  > desktop user haven't seen any need for / partiton over 8-10 GB.
> > > Servers, and other fedora usages may need some other partition schemes
 > >  > but a default home user has huge benefits from a dedicated /home
 > >  > partition.
 > >  >
> > > It is probable that new users aren't aware that /home partition as a > > > dedicated partition has advantages and it would be best if anaconda
 > >  > makes the "smart" partition scheme in which /home is a separate
> > > partition in LVM volume, or a logical partition. Separate home has > > > lots of advantages that you are aware of, so why not just change the
 > >  > partition scheme to take advantage of that?
 > >
> > Those users could read the Installation Guide, which talks about this > > exact situation and how to set up partitions that make sense. I don't
 > >  think it's unreasonable to expect that new users who are going to
> > install should read the document that tells them how to do it. There's
 > >  not a lot we can do for people who won't read.
 >
 > Where on the Live CD can I see the Installation Guide?

 Putting the IG on the Live Image isn't a good answer.  Carrying all the
languages we'd need to make that a good solution would knock other stuff
 off the already cramped space.  However, we should link to the IG from
the site where the Live Image is downloaded. People can download a copy to read offsite, or read it off the Web. I've already made a note on my
 draft for the new download workflow, at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PaulWFrields/Drafts/NewGetFedora . And of
 course, whether we link or provide it directly probably doesn't impact
 whether people actually *read* it.



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IG is a monster to read :)
Has there been a initiative to make "guick install guide" or something
like that?

Valent


Actually, this reminds me of something else that I think Fedora could do much better, namely, providing recommended kickstart configurations for various uses. It would be dirt cheap to populate the LiveCD and the base install media with a few different kickstart profiles, including a "desktop novice" profile. This wouldn't change the default behavior (and thus would not piss off lots of people) but would still accomplish your goal.

    -- Chris


This sounds like a great ides. Where can I look for info regarding kickstart files, what are they, how are they used in fedora, etc...

Valent.

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