Valent Turkovic wrote:
2008/3/10 Paul W. Frields <stickster@xxxxxxxxx>:
On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 15:56 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> 2008/3/10 Paul W. Frields <stickster@xxxxxxxxx>:
> > On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 14:19 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> > > 2008/3/10 Jesse Keating <jkeating@xxxxxxxxxx>:
> > > > On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 13:34 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> > > > > Is that on purpose and if it why?
> > > >
> > > > Guessing how much space you'll need in your non /home partitions over
> > > > time is difficult. Only you know how your install will be used. That's
> > > > why the installer defaults to the easiest thing to guess; How much boot
> > > > space you'll need, and how much swap space. However since you know how
> > > > your install is going to be used, you are best to make those estimations
> > > > and setup your /home as you want it.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jesse Keating
> > > > Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours?
> > >
> > > Fedora Live CD target audience are desktop users, right? I as a
> > > desktop user haven't seen any need for / partiton over 8-10 GB.
> > > Servers, and other fedora usages may need some other partition schemes
> > > but a default home user has huge benefits from a dedicated /home
> > > partition.
> > >
> > > It is probable that new users aren't aware that /home partition as a
> > > dedicated partition has advantages and it would be best if anaconda
> > > makes the "smart" partition scheme in which /home is a separate
> > > partition in LVM volume, or a logical partition. Separate home has
> > > lots of advantages that you are aware of, so why not just change the
> > > partition scheme to take advantage of that?
> >
> > Those users could read the Installation Guide, which talks about this
> > exact situation and how to set up partitions that make sense. I don't
> > think it's unreasonable to expect that new users who are going to
> > install should read the document that tells them how to do it. There's
> > not a lot we can do for people who won't read.
>
> Where on the Live CD can I see the Installation Guide?
Putting the IG on the Live Image isn't a good answer. Carrying all the
languages we'd need to make that a good solution would knock other stuff
off the already cramped space. However, we should link to the IG from
the site where the Live Image is downloaded. People can download a copy
to read offsite, or read it off the Web. I've already made a note on my
draft for the new download workflow, at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PaulWFrields/Drafts/NewGetFedora . And of
course, whether we link or provide it directly probably doesn't impact
whether people actually *read* it.
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IG is a monster to read :)
Has there been a initiative to make "guick install guide" or something
like that?
Valent
Actually, this reminds me of something else that I think Fedora could do
much better, namely, providing recommended kickstart configurations for
various uses. It would be dirt cheap to populate the LiveCD and the
base install media with a few different kickstart profiles, including a
"desktop novice" profile. This wouldn't change the default behavior
(and thus would not piss off lots of people) but would still accomplish
your goal.
-- Chris
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