On Feb 12, 2008 5:26 PM, Yaakov Nemoy <loupgaroublond@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > My original goal was to get xmonad into Fedora. I found that > packaging Haskell packages requires some care, but can be done pretty > quickly, so I decided doing things in full would be better. My > impression was that Bob and Jens were busy, and didn't have the time > to push things forward, so I figured the best way to do this would be > to do it myself. I've no problem with you pushing things forward and having a detailed plan. I love detailed plans. But I didn't want this to come up on the packaging committee agenda for a vote until other maintainers in the Haskell space took a look at it. The last thing we want to do is put things into position for a vote and then find out that the other maintainers who are directly affected by this have a serious problem... the resulting discussion would be much less sane. And it make the packaging committee look like bad guys for taking up the issue. If anyone is going to look like bad, I'd rather it be me by forcing people to actually talk to each other. For anyone watching this thread, I'll sum it up. When designing new guidance, you must take a proactive effort to communicate with other maintainers who are working in the space your guidance is meant to address before you bring this sort of thing to the packaging committee as an agenda item. The packaging committee are not experts in all niche areas, there must be some discussion on record between maintainers in the area in question concerning specialized guidance. If you make the effort to make that discussion happen (which includes bug tickets against existing packages and private emails to maintainers if need be), and all you get is crickets... talk to me or another board member. We'll figure out where the communication breakdown is and do something about it to make sure your efforts aren't just being silently ignored. If what your working on is crackrock, we'll make sure you know it. If people are generally okay with it, then we'll make sure people say that for the record. If there's collaboration that needs to be done to refine it...we'll make sure there's a reasonable chance for that to happen before the packaging committee takes it up. -jef -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list